Posted on Feb 16, 2017
What should be done if the President is mentally ill?
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If the man at the top may be unstable - then the White House is likely to exhibit some instability - as well as some efforts by the White House staff - who are normal infighters - to undermine and replace the man at the top. The problem, however, is how to accomplish regime change (the replacement of a mentally unstable incumbent with another member of the ruling political party) within the very strict confines of the United States Constitution - and within the constraint of maintaining the full faith and confidence of the citizens. Time to bring Mike Pence up to bat.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mental-health-new-york-times-incapable-being-president-warning-open-letter-a7578831.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/opinion/mental-health-professionals-warn-about-trump.html
http://www.lancedodes.com/new-york-times-letter
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mental-health-new-york-times-incapable-being-president-warning-open-letter-a7578831.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/opinion/mental-health-professionals-warn-about-trump.html
http://www.lancedodes.com/new-york-times-letter
Edited 9 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 300
Dam, I'm glad we have a LT so dam smart. I feel so safe! Goodbye Rally Point I can't take the unprofessionalism and down right ignorance any longer.
Given that Trump seems to be firing everyone involved in investigating his campaign ties to Putin's Russia, I suspect his mental illness involves a high degree of self destructiveness. He will be removed eventually, until then, we all need to consider our oaths to uphold the Constitution of the United States in light of treasonous leadership.
Sgt Loren Petty
When I was on active duty, Russia was an enemy of the United States, and anyone cooperating with them was an enemy of the Republic. The only thing that has changed since then is the number of people who no longer recognize these facts of life,
MCPO Roger Collins
Japan? Germany? Vietnam? Italy? What about those facts of life? Enemies come and go as conditions change. What existential threat does Russia pose directly to the USA at this point in time?
SPC Randy Torgerson
MCPO Roger Collins - I agree. No real threat. In fact, if we got our collective shit together, Russia could become a good ally.....
Best advice I can give is read the Constitution.....If the Surgeon General declares the President unable / unfit for office....Congress can remove him and there is an established protocol for his replacement starting with the vice president....read history....it has happened.... presidents have injured / died in office and were replaced
MSG James Hughs
SPC Randy Torgerson -
FIRST the definition I posted was not "my definition".... it is a cut and paste from an online dictionary....
SECOND I am very aware of Lt Annala's sub-context.....but it remains even her post does not specify the President specifically.... it simply asks HOW such a process works.... My response merely tried to make the LEGAL process clear.....I NEVER advocated or even hinted the process should or could apply to President Trump.
THIRD I NEVER advocate the "subversion of the Constitution" I was explaining how the Constitution would LEGALLY function if that process were needed.
FINALLY I voted for Trump....I donate to the Republican Party.... I AM NOT TRYING TO FOOL ANYONE.... because I was talking about THE PROCESS NOT THE PRESIDENT
I am fully aware of what sedition is and is not.....That is why I railed against being accused of being "one of the guys posting sedition."
FIRST the definition I posted was not "my definition".... it is a cut and paste from an online dictionary....
SECOND I am very aware of Lt Annala's sub-context.....but it remains even her post does not specify the President specifically.... it simply asks HOW such a process works.... My response merely tried to make the LEGAL process clear.....I NEVER advocated or even hinted the process should or could apply to President Trump.
THIRD I NEVER advocate the "subversion of the Constitution" I was explaining how the Constitution would LEGALLY function if that process were needed.
FINALLY I voted for Trump....I donate to the Republican Party.... I AM NOT TRYING TO FOOL ANYONE.... because I was talking about THE PROCESS NOT THE PRESIDENT
I am fully aware of what sedition is and is not.....That is why I railed against being accused of being "one of the guys posting sedition."
MSG James Hughs
SPC Randy Torgerson - It seems you have taken me on as your personal project.... I may be a bit paranoid but you seem to seek out my posts and systematically take an opposing position....enjoy correcting me..... hope one of these times you actually catch me wrong.....I does happen....I have been wrong many times ....my ex-wife will confirm that eagerly.... I want you to be happy....should I purposely post something STUPID so you can be right for once
SPC Randy Torgerson
MSG James Hughs - Yes sir, I was not commenting on the other post and not about what anyone had accused you of. When you mentioned Sedition, it just made me think of a few things. That is why I mentioned my post does not pertain to you specifically or wholly or how ever I worded it.
I think Lt Annala's original question / post speaks for itself and by itself would not mean much. But as you so stated, we are aware of her intentions with that question. Although in her defense, it was possibly just a way of getting some odd conversation started.
And true sir, you never advocated or hinted at subversion of the constitution. Again, if you read my post, it simply made me think of things for our other readers to think about. I apologize if you thought I was referring to you specifically as that was not my intention. I will work harder to have more clarity in my posts in the future.
I think Lt Annala's original question / post speaks for itself and by itself would not mean much. But as you so stated, we are aware of her intentions with that question. Although in her defense, it was possibly just a way of getting some odd conversation started.
And true sir, you never advocated or hinted at subversion of the constitution. Again, if you read my post, it simply made me think of things for our other readers to think about. I apologize if you thought I was referring to you specifically as that was not my intention. I will work harder to have more clarity in my posts in the future.
SPC Randy Torgerson
MSG James Hughs - haha, no sir I don't even pay much attention to who makes a post. My apologies if you think I am targeting you. I do get entertained when I find someone I can spar a little with. But always in jest, not serious from my perspective. Thank you sir for your patience and attributes to all of our comments. Its a fun place to release some feelings and frustrations with our political minds.
Who. Was acting president when FDR was incapacitated near the end of his life? Was the 25th amendment operative?
MCPO Roger Collins
I suppose if you overlook the Constitution and deceiving the public, it was all good.
Sgt A.J. Apodaca
I just got tired of all of the lies that came from Trump and his administration.
It's all BS, not that other administration's didn't BS, but this one has gone to far.
It's all BS, not that other administration's didn't BS, but this one has gone to far.
Sgt A.J. Apodaca
We have the patience because we firmly believe that he won't be there that long. I am not here to change people's minds, I am just disgusted with Trump and his clown convention cabinet. It's just my opinion. We all have them.
Sgt A.J. Apodaca
I have opinions, and the last time I checked, I am allowed to have them. Let's just leave it at that.
PO1 Michael Withrow
Sgt A.J. Apodaca - lies? which ones? i haven 't really seen any. i've seen the left wing media manipulate the news to make it LOOK LIKE Potus said something..
1st Lt. ANNALA nails it. "LINE of succession." Our Constitution has a built in way to deal with such issues. Just believe in the process.
SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales
Tell that to all those that burned Obama effigies on crosses or hung on trees, depicted him on pictorials as a monkey (from mainstream newspapers). Those came out in full force overshadowing anyone whom simply just didn't agree with Obama being our President which is how it should be.. I for one was very iffy about Obama.. so yes there are those who simply just don't agree with a President and I am cool with that..
SPC Randy Torgerson
SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales - All those who burned Obama effigies? You say that like it was running rampant. I bet you can't find 20 people in the legitimate news that burned effigies on crosses or hung on tree's in the 8 years of his presidency that were specifically about him...? I found one...
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/11/burning_cross.html
But don't come back with editorials about this. There is so much fake news out there, you need to find actual reported news. Not what Rachael Madow or Cooper Anderson claim and write stories about. Further, you said those stories came out in full force overshadowing legitimate complaints about Obama... I don't agree. I think the vast majority of that "full force" was put out by the left. The t-party was never violent, not once. Please don't compare what the right did or said to what the left has now done or said. Its not even close to the same thing. All violent protests have been from the left.
Are there idiots who use race as a point? Sure but as I said, their idiots. My disagreement with Obama's policies have nothing to do with his skin color nor Trumps skin color. I'm a very neutral voter. But what's happened to Trump far exceeds the status quo. Just my opinion of course. And you don't need to find 20 people as I asked at the beginning of this post, I think you get my point that the only people who made Obama about race was the left. No one can control what a few dozen idiots do on either side. But at least condemn it....!
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/11/burning_cross.html
But don't come back with editorials about this. There is so much fake news out there, you need to find actual reported news. Not what Rachael Madow or Cooper Anderson claim and write stories about. Further, you said those stories came out in full force overshadowing legitimate complaints about Obama... I don't agree. I think the vast majority of that "full force" was put out by the left. The t-party was never violent, not once. Please don't compare what the right did or said to what the left has now done or said. Its not even close to the same thing. All violent protests have been from the left.
Are there idiots who use race as a point? Sure but as I said, their idiots. My disagreement with Obama's policies have nothing to do with his skin color nor Trumps skin color. I'm a very neutral voter. But what's happened to Trump far exceeds the status quo. Just my opinion of course. And you don't need to find 20 people as I asked at the beginning of this post, I think you get my point that the only people who made Obama about race was the left. No one can control what a few dozen idiots do on either side. But at least condemn it....!
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SPC Randy Torgerson
SCPO Don Groves - Hey I'm on your side brother. I agree with everything you just said.
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