Posted on Jun 15, 2018
What should I do after a Sergeant at my AIT Company took my phone and lost it?
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1. If he took your phone then you probably were out of line at the time. 2. Several phones in a box, box lost- maybe they just don't want you to have your phone back right now. 3. Do you have a locator app on it?. 4. Ask the NCO to either return the phone or verify that it is still secure. If he can't do that, THEN report it to a higher NCO in your chain for action.
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Yes we are aloud to have them, but if you’re in then at the wrong times they will take them for a night or so. So they took it a rn is can’t seem to find it.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
Ok, I would double check with the NCO and see if it can be located. If it cannot be located after a reasonable amount of time then I would do like the other NCO already commented: utilize the unit open door policy.
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Turn them in. It's probably not the first time. When I first arrived at boot camp, a receiving Drill Instructor was busted for stealing and selling recruits' personal effects, shoes specifically.
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LTC (Join to see)
during my first company command, I had to fire (and prosecute) my 1SG for doing the same thing. He was stealing items from the barracks (and the company area. dude even stole a riding lawn mower from the maintenance shed) and selling them at the local pawn shop.
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LTC (Join to see)
the worst part is that, in addition to being a thief, he was a dumbass. He was selling the stuff he stole at the pawn shop right outside the main gate. He got caught when several of the soldiers saw their "missing" items for sale in the shop.
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You need to reported. An investigation will be opened and if he is responsible He will be charged. Or you can talk to the NCO and explain that you need your phone back or the replacement.
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Do all the norms, call, locator etc. ask the NCO(student or cadre) what he plans to do. If the response is not correct bring it up to the Platoon Sgt. You will need to have proof. Thank you for your service.
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Shouldn’t they be held responsible for replacing it? Since it was in their possession.
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SSG (Join to see)
Normally, yes. Unfortunately, the burden of proof would be on the accuser. I don’t know many commanders that would initiate a 15-6 for a cell phone. Hence why I recommended the open door policy for the 1SG or Commander.
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SSG (Join to see) With the price of cell phones nowadays, it's basically the same as having a mid-grade laptop stolen. If unit won't handle, then maybe MPs for theft?
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SFC (Join to see) - With the price of phones, I am surprised that units don't have soldiers list them as high value property.
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Anyone complaining about cell phones in BCT/AIT has obviously been disconnected from TRADOC for the past 10 years.
Anyone saying you deserved it or were deserving of having a NCO steal your property, is probably a shitty Leader themselves.
I hope by now this has been rectified, but if it hasn't, you need to bring this up to your CO, BN, or even BDE CDR.
As a former Drill Sergeant I can tell you that MANY of those AIT SGTs/PSGs were poor examples of what Leaders should be ...and they have DEFINITELY been found guilty of pulling shady tricks on new Soldiers.
Bottomline, be well versed in your rights. Visit JAG or IG if need be. I'm all about doing what your told and taking your phones the entire time you're training ...but I will NEVER get on board with stealing from Soldiers.
Wrong is wrong.
Anyone saying you deserved it or were deserving of having a NCO steal your property, is probably a shitty Leader themselves.
I hope by now this has been rectified, but if it hasn't, you need to bring this up to your CO, BN, or even BDE CDR.
As a former Drill Sergeant I can tell you that MANY of those AIT SGTs/PSGs were poor examples of what Leaders should be ...and they have DEFINITELY been found guilty of pulling shady tricks on new Soldiers.
Bottomline, be well versed in your rights. Visit JAG or IG if need be. I'm all about doing what your told and taking your phones the entire time you're training ...but I will NEVER get on board with stealing from Soldiers.
Wrong is wrong.
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If the cell phone was ordered surrendered due to unit or installation policy, the unit should have a procedure in place to protect the individuals' property until it is returned. In this case, you can submit a claim against the government for reimbursement. If the "confiscation" was not in accordance with established policy, you have a complaint against the NCO who demanded its surrender.
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If this is a personal phone, it will be more difficult to address (no one is signed for it). You need to complete a sworn statement, and engage the CO via the open door policy. Understand however you are a junior Soldier in a school house setting. In such circumstances, cadre will usually be given the benefit of the doubt over you. You'll have to determine personally just how much time/effort/money this course of action is worth to you before going down the rabbit hole. If you make an accusation, at a minimum, the CO will have to question you and the NCO, obtain sworn statements, and conduct an internal investigation.
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I may have missed it but was it your Platoon Sergeant, or one of the CQ NCOs that took it? You’ve been provided the best advice already in using the open door policy if you don’t get an answer on a solution. I was an instructor in your BN and there were policies for both the Platoon Sergeants and CQ NCOs about confiscation and storage of unauthorized personal property. If they’ve failed to secure your phone then something will have to be worked out.
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