Posted on Feb 4, 2016
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Just formally got my mob orders for CJTF-HOA. I did JPME I almost 10 years ago so I don't remember much. Never served in a joint billet (submarines only). Any suggestions on what to read before going over to minimize my time getting up to speed? (Is ATTP 5-0.1 worth it?)
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CAPT Kevin B.
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It's been a while but bone up on money. Different funding sources, UN, "Other Peoples Money", etc. will help you categorize what's for what. Also read up on all the AOR SOFA agreements and more importantly what they don't cover. Get to know the MLOs at the various embassies we have over there. They are big into coordination of services. Look to see what USAID is up to as well. Everything over there floats on a sea of money. The better you are navigating that stuff, the more valuable you are.
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I recommend getting on JKO courses and diving in, sir. Better to get the Cliff's Notes version before buying the whole book.
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Hadn't even thought of JKO; I'm used to just going on NKO. I'll have to browse it. Thanks for the suggestion.
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CDR (Join to see), another tip on JKO, sir; once you log in to JKO courses, edit your profile and update your "Primary Organization" before completing any courses. Getting the unit right should force-feed some of your courses, and will ensure that your Training Coordinator has visibility of what you complete.
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SFC John Hill
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You may find these helpful. For a list of professional readings recommended by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, see Joint Pub 1, Joint Warfare of the U.S. Armed Forces. http://dtic.mil/doctrine/new_pubs/jp1.pdf or Joint Officer Handbook (JOH) Staffing and Action Guide http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/dod/joh_aug2011.pdf
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What should I read before my 1st Joint staff duty?
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Two items that every enlisted or officer should read are the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and The Law of Nations, especially when one wants to know the right thing because it is the right thing to do. I believe reading those two items will have a great impact on any future decisions you may make. Good luck in your new billet.
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I've been out way too long to know what the latest pubs are in regards to joint ops. But I would just like to say that I am pleased to discover that they have formed a CJTF to take on the Home Owners Associations. They have been running wild terrorizing Americans and trampling our constitutional rights for far too long. I hope you round up all the board members and lock them up in a closed Walmart in Texas.
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SSgt Robert Jorgensen
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With all due respect, it's amusing that the posts are all officers of one kind or another and I am an enlisted guy and the only one to point out your problem that can make you look stupid when you write something. I apologize for my auto-correct making my post do instead of due. But it is funny no other officer has the guts to point out the problem or mention that if you really want the job, quit asking for the easy way out of reading.
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Interesting comment about "if you really want the job". You do understand the concept of INVOLUNTARY mobilization, right? I'm a submarine warfare officer, and spent most of my career in submarine escape and rescue. I have NEVER done any staff duty. So I honestly am looking for a starting point of references to read. I don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about with, "quit asking for the easy way out of reading" when I am soliciting ideas of what to read. Please stop following this thread if you are just looking for negative things.
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SSgt Robert Jorgensen
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CDR (Join to see) - I will quit following it. But if you look at all the posts, mine started out trying to point out the glaring mistakes that you made. Try reading the title you actually wrote, not what you thought you wrote. My experience has been that the grammar & spelling causes doubt when things are posted. That would not be favorable for your staff position.

I apologize for my comment but as a Commander I would have thought that position would have given insight to the requirements.

As far as my negativity other officers are quick to fire at me and not say anything to you.

Good Luck with your assignment.
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LTC Psychological Operations Officer
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No officers commented on typos because they understand the difference between typographical errors and a lack of spelling ability. They understand that with today's technology things don't always appear as you type them (as you discovered with autocorrect). My Ipad is old and has been dropped too many times, so often it will display the letter next to the key I touch, and other times display nothing at all. The type size is very small, and at times I don't feel like getting my reading glasses. And finally, they understand the difference between a professional communication that needs to be checked and double checked and a social media forum that requires only that the reader can understand the meaning.
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SSgt Robert Jorgensen
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My question to you sir is did you see the original post prior to it being corrected? I have learned that usually we work as we practice. As stated originally, I was pointing out a glaring problem that should not happen when in that position. Yes my auto-correct changed a word, it did not leave out a word. It was asked what to read and I pointed out start with the basic. But being the enlisted guy beating up on a fellow office obviously has shown my that I am below all the educated officers since that is how you get commissioned. I admit I am not part of the good old boy club.
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Understand the difference in service cultures. From an Army perspective, don't chew anyone out for calling Army warrants "Chief". Learn the other services' ranks so you know who you're talking to.
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Learn as much as possible about other service cultures; especially those of the people above you in the chain... that can mean the difference between success and just ok...
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Reach out to who you are replacing and see what they have on their plate. Then go from there.
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SSgt Robert Jorgensen
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Based on what I have read in your question and commentary, I would highly recommend with all do respect sir, an English grammar and proof reading book!
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I somehow doubt that I'll have to worry about typing on a web-page while also dealing with a kid who has a cold while deployed. (Plus, you do realize SSgt Jorgensen that it is "JPME I" (as in JPME #1), not an extra "I", right?) I'll take the hit on typing the title too quickly.
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On top of that, someone correcting someone else on their grammar, regardless of rank, should be typing "with all DUE respect", not "with all do respect".
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