Posted on Jun 10, 2016
What should my daughter expect in boot camp and A school? She just joined Security Forces in the Air Force.
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It's basically all about PT and mind games. The SF Academy is actually a lot harder than boot camp, but you don't notice it much because you sort of have weekends off. I think she will look back on the experience as a sort of pleasant one.
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Air Force BMT - Cell Phone Policy
In this video I talk about cell phones. When you can use them, how long phone calls are and things like that! YES BRING YOUR CELL PHONE TO BMT! Facebook.com/...
Here is a link to a lot of Q&A's about Air Force basic and what to expect - she might want to take a look at these videos. Congratulations -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAQClplbwMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAQClplbwMs
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TSgt (Join to see)
They don't get to use them when ever they want, only when authorized to make calls. But the Air Force realized it's cheaper to let the Trainees call home from their phones than it was to keep pay phones (that never work) and make the trainees spend money on the pay phone and calling cards when nearly all of them are already paying for a cell phone. But sure, if you want to gripe about the fairness of Air Force thinking about ways to save a few bucks for their Trainees, go ahead. We all know you're just jealous :-)
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Sgt John Steinmeier
Army does the same thing, at least at Ft Sill. Easier to throw their cell phones at them and tell them they have 5 minutes than herd them down to pay phone banks (that probably don't exist anymore).
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Congratulations! Welcome her to the USAF family! If she ends up at Kunsan for her first assignment (many Security Forces airmen do) and arrives by April 2017, I will be her Squadron Chaplain. If she needs anything, just let me know!
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I would say work on her pt now; push ups, sit ups, and 1.5mile run. They PT everyday, alternating from strength day and run days. For run days they'll run a 1.5mile 12min pace group run then a self paced run for 15min then sprint intervals for 5min if I remember right. I would say for knowledge I would say to start memorizing the general chain of command; president, vp, secretary of defense and Air Force, etc. then memorize her reporting statement and if she can some marching because the MTI's like to "pick on" the people that aren't the greatest at marching since you March everywhere. I would say the greatest thing that helped me learn what to expect was when we went in the dfac and we finished eating I would always go in the bathroom and kind of ask the other trainees in weeks ahead of me. If she's trying to focus on getting through it, tell her to break it down by meals and it goes by pretty fast. What my MTI stressed was 90% appearance and 10% knowledge haha because most of the time if you look like you know what you're doing and present yourself properly they normally leave you alone. It seems like it goes by slow and sucks but when it's finished you look back and it's really not that bad. It's all about teamwork, my bmt flight we may have not all liked each other but we would always help each other and have each other's backs and that's how you get through. Some YouTube videos are very informational but you never know until you go through since everyone has their own experiences. I watched all the videos myself too and when I got there it seemed like it was completely different for me.
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TSgt Joe Schock
Wow... Thanks!!! Great Information!!!
This made me remember things from my Boot Camp experience 30+ years ago!!!
This made me remember things from my Boot Camp experience 30+ years ago!!!
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Can't tell her what to expect but congratulations to her on this special occasion. Am sure you and the entire family are extremely proud of her.
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TSgt Joe Schock
Very Proud, I retired in 2013 after 28 years(served in Army, Navy & Air National Guard) I am so happy to see the name on the uniform again!!!
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Good old Boy system was still alive and well 99-2003. NEVER GIVE UP. The Guys that were my team, My brothers, were amazing. SFS Academy was worth it. Every volunteered deployment was worth it. A Lot has changed in the sexual trauma and sexual harassment protocols. Stand up for yourself, make certain you are heard. don't be a b1tc# but do not accept disrespect. Set the limits at day one, maintain them. You lax those limits its on you just as much as them. Do not blame others for mutual misconduct. Maintain dignity, self regulation. You only get one chance to present yourself as how you want to be treated, do not be a door mat. The repercussions are lasting. You are not there to make people happy, you are there to keep people safe, you safe. ( I couldn't get Noel Hollingsworth Verified, so I used my FB profile. Finally worked.)
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Congrats..... that said, hands down pt pt pt, expect to be introduced to the greatest law enforcement accademy in the country. Its a combat minded position, she will learn base/ perimeter security and defense basic map reading and recon as well as land navigation. Discipline and integrity as well as a strong sense of tradition and pride will be instilled. Hand to hand defense and strike lots of weapon knowledge the m9 and m14 or m4. If she wants to work hard and is into the obsticle courses and experiencing a more traditional military job she should expect to feel pride and that shell have a blast.
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I was an Honorably discharged an Air Force Security Forces member from 94 to 99, my experience WAS NOT positive at all.
I was stationed in Kirtland AFB and routinely saw the senior ranking NCOs sexually harass and prey on the younger female cops. While I would like to believe it changed since I was out, I have friends who stayed in despite not really liking their Security Forces job, and they tell me many of the old atitudes exist, rampant sexual harassment, alcoholism, NCOs with a chip on their shoulders doing what they can to get you kicked out...
I was stationed in Kirtland AFB and routinely saw the senior ranking NCOs sexually harass and prey on the younger female cops. While I would like to believe it changed since I was out, I have friends who stayed in despite not really liking their Security Forces job, and they tell me many of the old atitudes exist, rampant sexual harassment, alcoholism, NCOs with a chip on their shoulders doing what they can to get you kicked out...
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Congrats! What's she wanna do? I can't comment on Chair Force Boot, sorry. Navy wasn't bad.
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MSgt (Join to see)
The Chair Force Boot is where our Airmen learn to not listen to leadership and they learn how to fold clothes. However, the Air Force Clothes Folding is not as efficient as the Navy's.
AF: Fold and Stow 8 Uniforms in 12 bags.
Navy: Fold and Stow 14 Uniforms in two bags.
AF: Fold and Stow 8 Uniforms in 12 bags.
Navy: Fold and Stow 14 Uniforms in two bags.
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I use to have the oath of enlistment memorized. Some of the words escape me now.
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CPT Joseph K Murdock
I state your full name swear or affirm to support the the constitution of the United States, the orders of the officers appointed over me, the regulations Unified Code of Military Justice, so help me god. Was I close? I feel like it's missing something.
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