Posted on Mar 12, 2021
What should the Army posts that are currently named after Confederate generals be renamed?
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As part of the FY 2021 NDAA, there are 10 U.S. Army posts, currently named after men who were Confederate generals during the Civil War, which are required to be renamed by the end of 2023.
The posts being renamed are:
Camp Beauregard, LA
Fort Polk, LA
Fort Benning, GA
Fort Gordon, GA
Fort Bragg, NC
Fort A.P. Hill, VA
Fort Lee, VA
Fort Pickett, VA
Fort Rucker, AL
Fort Hood, TX
This post is not to debate the merits of whether or not they should be renamed (it's happening). I'm curious as to what you think the specific posts should be renamed and why?
The posts being renamed are:
Camp Beauregard, LA
Fort Polk, LA
Fort Benning, GA
Fort Gordon, GA
Fort Bragg, NC
Fort A.P. Hill, VA
Fort Lee, VA
Fort Pickett, VA
Fort Rucker, AL
Fort Hood, TX
This post is not to debate the merits of whether or not they should be renamed (it's happening). I'm curious as to what you think the specific posts should be renamed and why?
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Point and case. If a name offends you, you might have the wrong job.
Fort Butthurt, Camp Safespace, Fort snowflake
Fort Butthurt, Camp Safespace, Fort snowflake
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I had an idea relating to the statues (please bear with me). Keep the statues, but put up another statue of the Union General (the Confederate statues are all GO's) who defeated him. Associated with both statues should be a placard describing the battle in which the Confederate General was defeated by the Union General.
Riffing off that idea, how about this? Keep the name of the installation, but hyphenate it with the name of the Union General who defeated him.
Beauregard-Sherman
Polk-McPherson
Benning-Harris
Gordon-Chamberlain
Bragg-Sherman
A.P. Hill-Ord
Lee-Grant
Pickett-Sheridan
Rucker-Thomas
Hood-Thomas
Riffing off that idea, how about this? Keep the name of the installation, but hyphenate it with the name of the Union General who defeated him.
Beauregard-Sherman
Polk-McPherson
Benning-Harris
Gordon-Chamberlain
Bragg-Sherman
A.P. Hill-Ord
Lee-Grant
Pickett-Sheridan
Rucker-Thomas
Hood-Thomas
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SPC Paul LaBelle
Put a Sherman monument complete with eternal flame next to every confederate memorial
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
SPC Paul LaBelle - Kinda' However Sherman wasn't the only Union General who won victories. The list I provided (above) is the best match-ups I could figure. (It's possible that better match-ups exist, but I'm sure I've gotten it fairly good.)
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1SG Daniel Falcon - Both tubman and douglass had significant roles during the civil war. So it is appropriate in my opinion. The information on them both is available in the internet.
During the Civil War, Harriet Tubman was also a secret spy and military leader. In 1863, Harriet Tubman led soldiers with Colonel James Montgomery to raid rice plantations along the Combahee River in South Carolina. They set fire to buildings, destroyed bridges, and freed many of the slaves on the plantations.
By 1860, Douglass was well known for his efforts to end slavery and his skill at public speaking. During the Civil War, Douglass was a consultant to President Abraham Lincoln and helped convince him that slaves should serve in the Union forces and that the abolition of slavery should be a goal of the war.
During the Civil War, Harriet Tubman was also a secret spy and military leader. In 1863, Harriet Tubman led soldiers with Colonel James Montgomery to raid rice plantations along the Combahee River in South Carolina. They set fire to buildings, destroyed bridges, and freed many of the slaves on the plantations.
By 1860, Douglass was well known for his efforts to end slavery and his skill at public speaking. During the Civil War, Douglass was a consultant to President Abraham Lincoln and helped convince him that slaves should serve in the Union forces and that the abolition of slavery should be a goal of the war.
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Shouldn't Jackson be on that list too? That'd be an easy switch from Stonewall to Andrew.
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If its named for President Andrew Jackson maybe it should be renamed too considering the trail of tears and his outright defiance of a supreme court order.
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CW3 Matt Tait - Well now we're getting into the "no one is worthy because no one is perfect" issue. Like how the People's Republic of California is removing Founding Father's names off schools because they owned slaves.
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CW2 (Join to see) I agree that we could probably pick apart anyone of historical significance so it could be that nothing gets named after anyone. I just hadn't previously correlated Andrew "trail of tears" Jackson with Fort Jackson and that's one of the worst moments in American history.
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CW4 Keith Dolliver
I agree that, in general, we should be moving to an all joint concept, however none of the bases (with the exception of Bragg, which already absorbed Pope) are co-located with other services. Also, most are not exactly near real cities...and in the case of Fort Polk and Pickett, they're not near anything (Rucker's not much better). I also don't think Joint Base Killeen exactly has the appeal that Joint Base San Antonio does.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
Bragg did not"absorb" Pope. BRAC got Pope AFB and per terms of the lease with the USAF, it was returned to the ARMY and resumed its former name Pope AAF.
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CW4 Keith Dolliver
MAJ Ronnie Reams - Whatever you call it, the end result is the same. Territory that belonged to Pope now belongs to Bragg.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
Did not belong to the USAF, they were a tenant. In fact, there was much discussion at Willies* of kicking them out back when they violated lease conditions of no F nor P ac being stationed there when a F-16 crashed into the Green Ramp. I was at the old confinement facility, which was USASOC HQ at the time. Sounded as if the 10th Marines were out of the impact zone. LOL We immediately had to check if we had any strap hangers that were there. The post engineer was ready to send them packing, but Pentagon said no.
*In case you not been there, that is the basement bar at the main FBOOM, a casual bar. Lots of decisions made there, as it main watering hole for seniors,as it right across street from Generals Row and other senior officer quarters.
*In case you not been there, that is the basement bar at the main FBOOM, a casual bar. Lots of decisions made there, as it main watering hole for seniors,as it right across street from Generals Row and other senior officer quarters.
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I'd like to add, I think it would be a good idea to name a few medical facilities after nurses who lost their lives in combat zones, such as 1LT Sharon Lane who was the only nurse to die by enemy fire during the Vietnam War.
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Fort Rucker should be renamed after one of the Warrant Officer aviators that received the Medal of Honor thus tying to the two primary things Fort Rucker does: train Warrant Officers and train aviators.
Fort Novosel would be my vote but there are a few others along with several enlisted soldiers and regular officers that would also be good choices.
Other training bases should be named after soldiers that represent one of the MOS that is trained there and even better if they are from the area. For Benning's replacement I'm sure that there are many infantry MOH or other valorous award recipients from Georgia. Non training bases would do well to be renamed along the same lines: someone local and a MOH or other valorous award recipient.
Fort Novosel would be my vote but there are a few others along with several enlisted soldiers and regular officers that would also be good choices.
Other training bases should be named after soldiers that represent one of the MOS that is trained there and even better if they are from the area. For Benning's replacement I'm sure that there are many infantry MOH or other valorous award recipients from Georgia. Non training bases would do well to be renamed along the same lines: someone local and a MOH or other valorous award recipient.
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They should be renamed to the same names they have now. Save the money and time wasted to do this.
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I believe Fort Bragg should be re-named for the Union general who commanded the Iron Brigade, and later became a Democratic congressman: Edward S. Bragg. Shouldn't be much controversy there, and we would save a lot on sign painting costs.
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I don't know why they feel the need to rename them, since I think most of those posts have created enough of their own history to overshadow those they were named for. Whenever I think of Benning, it's not some semi-obscure Confederate general that I am reminded of, but the home of the Infantry. If PC demands it, maybe for Benning, Fort Bradley, since Omar Bradley commanded the Infantry School early in WW2. But I am sure they will be renamed by some politician who never wore a uniform, with no appreciation of history.
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What a crock of liberal loon BS. How about you rename them "Liberal Bullshit One; Liberal Bullshit Two; Liberal Bullshit Three; etc."
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I suggest
_Fort Puller (Chesty Puller)
_Fort Daly (Dan Daly)
_Fort Basilone (John Basilone)
_Fort Boyington (Pappy Boyington)
_Fort O'Bannon (Presley O'Bannon)
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Fort York (Alvin York)
Fort Sherman (William Tecumseh Sherman)
Fort Ridgway (Mathew Ridgway)
Fort Stilwell (Joseph Stilwell)
Fort Murphy (Audie Murphy)
_Fort Puller (Chesty Puller)
_Fort Daly (Dan Daly)
_Fort Basilone (John Basilone)
_Fort Boyington (Pappy Boyington)
_Fort O'Bannon (Presley O'Bannon)
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Fort York (Alvin York)
Fort Sherman (William Tecumseh Sherman)
Fort Ridgway (Mathew Ridgway)
Fort Stilwell (Joseph Stilwell)
Fort Murphy (Audie Murphy)
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CW4 Keith Dolliver
I couldn't help but notice that all your primary suggestions are Marines... so I'm sure there's a fair bit of trolling going on here, but obviously it wouldn't make much sense to name Army posts after Marines.
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Maj John Bell
CW4 Keith Dolliver - There is way more than a fair bit of trolling, but did you really expect any different?
I actually think it is a natural for Ft Bragg to become Ft Ridgway. And I personally think that General Stilwell deserves a lot more recognition than he has received. So all trolling aside I think those are two fine choices.
I actually think it is a natural for Ft Bragg to become Ft Ridgway. And I personally think that General Stilwell deserves a lot more recognition than he has received. So all trolling aside I think those are two fine choices.
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Maybe the Marines could update their base names for deserving Marines as most (maybe all?) Marine bases are named for nearby towns or geography. The Navy seems to do the same while the Air Force and Army tend to name bases after people.
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Fort U. S. Grant (There is an old Ft. Grant, but it is closed) few men deserve a fort named after them as well as Gen. (President) Grant, Fort Sherman, Fort Eisenhower, Fort Pershing, Fort Marshall, Fort Patton, Fort Bradley, Fort MacArther, Fort Ridgeway, Fort Benevidez. I just throwing a few names out there of great men who we should probably name a major army post after. A few of the names have been used for posts before but they are/were old closed posts or no longer exist.
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No matter what the name, someone will always find a reason to be offended. Birds, animals, mammals, reptiles, insects...start there. Someone will still complain.
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