Posted on Jun 24, 2016
What should the physical requirements for 68 W be?
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68 CMF physical requirements just came out for 2017. The 68W has 12 task to complete from skill level 1-4 while skill level 5 has 11 task. Each task involves the medic wearing 98 lbs of gear and typically carrying, dragging or picking up weight around 54 lbs-200 lbs for some distance around 300 feet. Additionally they should be able to travel up to 12 miles with 98 lbs worth of gear
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
68W: Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
Health
Fitness
Readiness
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How does the group think this will assist or delay the gender integration that the DoD is pushing now?
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I think it's a step in the right direction.
Is it a yearly requirement to be done or is it done during AIT or reclass like a high physical demands test? Infantry proponent started the task testing this year for OSUT and the reclass students. Nothing about having to do it yearly like AWT. Which again, I would certainly not be opposed to.
Is it a yearly requirement to be done or is it done during AIT or reclass like a high physical demands test? Infantry proponent started the task testing this year for OSUT and the reclass students. Nothing about having to do it yearly like AWT. Which again, I would certainly not be opposed to.
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MSG (Join to see)
change the apft standard to match the job, if your combat medic can you in time of need hump a sm and his equipement to safety
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What I want you to keep in mind is 15,000+ Medics are active, 13,000 in National Guard, and 6,000 in the Reserves. They must all be able to complete these task.
There are about 37,000 medics in the force... can we sustain our ranks if this is going to be a strict physical requirement?
There are about 37,000 medics in the force... can we sustain our ranks if this is going to be a strict physical requirement?
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LTC Paul Labrador
SGT Dv Jerod - I agree soldiers need to be fit too....but what this is saying ALL medics need to be able to carry upwards to 300 pounds 100yds and 100lbs for 12miles. That is not a realistic standard for ALL medics, particularly when a good chunk of the force is not in FORSCOM and doesn't get time to train. Which is why if you want a FORSCOM standard, that is fine, but one size does not fit all.
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MSG (Join to see)
when in iraq the senior medic bn was a corple, he tried to use this one me as an e7, i shuved it up his ass, as well as his csm, when i got the call from bn thats what i said, this punk bitch aint telling me how to car for my troops, period, he was corprale because he was also 38b, i was sfg 68w and 38b, never had a propblem after that this punk ass bitch got schooled old time
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This is the issue i am very familiar with, you want a medic to be physically fit. Good that is fine but you have to give them the time to train to be physically fit. Working 12 hours in the ER or ward or the clinic might not be physically demanding but dont be fooled because it is emotionally and mentally exhausting. FORSCOM personnel have mo issue with this since PT is part of there daily activities. MEDCOM otherwise is different story. If you calculate spending time at the clinic 12 hours, 1 hour huddle between team, 1 hour lunch 1 hour drive into and off work. 1 hour PT( 10 minutes to change and 10 minutes to shower plus 5 minutes to change after). You already spend 16 hours of your time and you inly work out 35 minutes of it. Do the math. Then you get home you still have to deal with wife. Kids homework and other family issues. Now compare that to your line counterparts. See how Physical training fit to the logic in MEDCOM areas.
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So to give you a deeper collection of thoughts there are 1,641 Combat Medic Section jobs in Compo 1 (active) and Compo 2 (NG) while only around 200 in Compo 3 (reserve). Total population is around 35,000 medics. These combat medics sections consist of E1-E4 for IBCT and ABCT while the SBCT has a SSG slot in it.
My other thought is that the PULHES is supposed to be 111111, so when a SSG - MSG (someone with a lot of Army money put at them) gets hurt on deployment, will they have to reclass, get out, or just make it?
My other thought is that the PULHES is supposed to be 111111, so when a SSG - MSG (someone with a lot of Army money put at them) gets hurt on deployment, will they have to reclass, get out, or just make it?
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MSG (Join to see)
weather 68w line or hosp you are expected to do your job, so extra education is needed
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LTC Paul Labrador
SGT (Join to see) - medics who end up on the line would need to meet standards. It's like being a Ranger. They have standards above and beyond what is required by regular Army. If you are assigned there, you need to meet their standards, but you can't expect EVERYONE to meet that standard.
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SGT (Join to see) - I am not sure how your unit is but I know a lot of people who have to do ACLS, PALS, AND ITLS. Should this be a requirement for line medics as well? They could end up in a setting where this is required. I spend a lot (too much if you ask my wife) studying AMLS, going back over my cardiac stuff, pharmacology stuff, and trying to know what the latest stuff is saying in regards to emergency medicine. These are things I have to know, because of my career path. Chances are I will never end up in an infantry unit. I will say it might be possible I guess and I'm sure I could complete this, not sure about 98lbs of gear plus a decent load in my ruck though to be honest.
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