Posted on Oct 28, 2021
What type of discharge should I expect for refusing the covid vaccine?
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I have no negative marks on my record and have been in the army for over two years.
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Coronavirus COVID19
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So all of the shots/vaccinations that the military has given you already and you didn't even know what some of them were or the background information or history of each one.... But this one (Covid vaccine) is different and a major problem??? A big enough problem for you to lose all or some of your VA benefits and/or sacrifice a career if you were planning on staying in? I don't get it.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
PO2 Jean Lentin - We're done after you cite laws that don't even exist in the United States, like the Nuremberg Code (or Nürnberger Kodex). which has not been adopted as law by any nation.
I don't debate with people who lack the ability to reason. Downvoted and blocked.
I don't debate with people who lack the ability to reason. Downvoted and blocked.
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CDR (Join to see)
Capt Gregory Prickett - Actually, the Nuremberg Code was mostly codified into USC in 1964. It's primarily in USC 18 § 2441, and has been amended repeatedly since it's original adoption.
If your point is that the US doesn't follow foreign law, that is historically correct. There is an effort within the current administration to change that, as was seen in the WHO Global Summit in May 2022. African nations rejected the Biden Administrations amendments that would have given the WHO legal authorities in all member nations.
If your point is that the US doesn't follow foreign law, that is historically correct. There is an effort within the current administration to change that, as was seen in the WHO Global Summit in May 2022. African nations rejected the Biden Administrations amendments that would have given the WHO legal authorities in all member nations.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Everything That Guy Just Said is Bullshit
My Cousin Vinny (1992) - So many great quotes from this movie. Well deserving of all the accolades it received.More info on the movie: http://www.imdb.com/ti...
CDR (Join to see) - ROTFLMAO. Really? 18 USC § 2441 implements the Geneva Convention, not the Nuremberg Code. It doesn't even track the Nuremberg Code.
For others following this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4bftQ4xxFc
For others following this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4bftQ4xxFc
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PO2 Jean Lentin
CDR (Join to see) - HERE is what you're talking about: CODIFIED NUREMBURG CODE IN USC. CAPT PRICKETT, you spread lies and propoganda, or foolishness and ineptitude, which is it? CAPT PRICKETT ADVOCATES WAR CRIMES. I will not refer to you by your title, I say you need stripped of it, PRICKETT.
***18 U.S. Code § 2441 - War crimes https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2441 Grave breach of common Article 3
(1) Prohibited conduct .— In subsection (c)(3), the term “grave breach of common Article 3” means any conduct (such conduct constituting a grave breach of common Article 3 of the international conventions done at Geneva August 12, 1949 ), as follows: (C) Performing biological experiments .— The act of a person who subjects, or conspires or attempts to subject, one or more persons within his custody or physical control to biological experiments without a legitimate medical or dental purpose and in so doing endangers the body or health of such person or persons. (E) Mutilation or maiming .— The act of a person who intentionally injures, or conspires or attempts to injure, or injures whether intentionally or unintentionally in the course of committing any other offense under this subsection, one or more persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including those placed out of combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, by disfiguring the person or persons by any mutilation thereof or by permanently disabling any member, limb, or organ of his body, without any legitimate medical or dental purpose. ***
The Criminal supporters always cancel and argue in Bad Faith. Notice, PRICKETT latches to the one arguable law (as it's codified not as Nuremburg code, yet is effectively), and ignores the rest, using ONE arguable component to dismiss all others. A common logical fallacy, or in this case, weaponized rhetoric. PRICKETT is not interested in truth; he hides behind misdirection, false positives, and lies.
***18 U.S. Code § 2441 - War crimes https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2441 Grave breach of common Article 3
(1) Prohibited conduct .— In subsection (c)(3), the term “grave breach of common Article 3” means any conduct (such conduct constituting a grave breach of common Article 3 of the international conventions done at Geneva August 12, 1949 ), as follows: (C) Performing biological experiments .— The act of a person who subjects, or conspires or attempts to subject, one or more persons within his custody or physical control to biological experiments without a legitimate medical or dental purpose and in so doing endangers the body or health of such person or persons. (E) Mutilation or maiming .— The act of a person who intentionally injures, or conspires or attempts to injure, or injures whether intentionally or unintentionally in the course of committing any other offense under this subsection, one or more persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including those placed out of combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, by disfiguring the person or persons by any mutilation thereof or by permanently disabling any member, limb, or organ of his body, without any legitimate medical or dental purpose. ***
The Criminal supporters always cancel and argue in Bad Faith. Notice, PRICKETT latches to the one arguable law (as it's codified not as Nuremburg code, yet is effectively), and ignores the rest, using ONE arguable component to dismiss all others. A common logical fallacy, or in this case, weaponized rhetoric. PRICKETT is not interested in truth; he hides behind misdirection, false positives, and lies.
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While I understand your concern with this shot, and now that I’m retired I no longer have a dog in this hunt, but when you raise your right hand to enlist you give up many of the rights you had as a civilian and vaccinations is one of them. My professional opinion to you is to suck it up and complete your enlistment and ETS honorably, otherwise get out and show potential employers you quit when you don't like something!
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SGT Dana Haskins
your a fucking idiot, that shot has killed people. just keep your pie hole shut because you make yourself sound ignorant.
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As it stands now, they will all be categorized as general under honorable.
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Soldiers who refuse could face "administrative or non-judicial punishment [under the Uniform Code of Military Justice] -- to include relief of duties or discharge," according to the new Army guidelines obtained by Military.com.
Administrative action includes initiating what is called a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand, or GOMOR, for all refusals without an allowed exemption. The reprimand is widely seen as a military career killer but can, under certain circumstances, be tossed from a soldier's record.
All judicial action will be launched by colonels in a soldier's chain of command, or a general in units without a colonel.
Soldiers who have pending decisions on medical or religious exemptions will not face any adverse action.
EDIT:
Soldiers who refuse could face "administrative or non-judicial punishment [under the Uniform Code of Military Justice] -- to include relief of duties or discharge," according to the new Army guidelines obtained by Military.com.
Administrative action includes initiating what is called a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand, or GOMOR, for all refusals without an allowed exemption. The reprimand is widely seen as a military career killer but can, under certain circumstances, be tossed from a soldier's record.
All judicial action will be launched by colonels in a soldier's chain of command, or a general in units without a colonel.
Soldiers who have pending decisions on medical or religious exemptions will not face any adverse action.
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Maj Joan Marine
I retired before COVID came around but yes I would have refused an Emergency Use Authorized vaccine if it wasn't proven to PREVENT an illness. It is an unlawful order when it goes against the GC rules. Would you drink poison if told to do it...not knowing what kind of harm would result?
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MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi
Maj Joan Marine - A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take medical treatment for an illness that I do not have.
Although mRNA vaccines have been studied for many years, they have never before been approved for human use against disease. As a result, members of the public have raised concerns regarding potential unknown side effects.—Medical news today July 2021
SPC Jeremy A
Although mRNA vaccines have been studied for many years, they have never before been approved for human use against disease. As a result, members of the public have raised concerns regarding potential unknown side effects.—Medical news today July 2021
SPC Jeremy A
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