Posted on Sep 6, 2020
What usually happens to a Soldier who fails urinalysis?
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Of course, first answer would be subject to article 15/UCMJ, but realistically and from experience has anyone seen somebody not have any heavy punishment from failing a drug test in their unit? (National guard unit?)marijuana specially.
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PFC (Join to see) If you have to ask the question you know the answer!
I once saw ~20 of 30 students in a Hospital Corpsman Basic school class in the late 1970s get dismissed from school with a number of them sent to the fleet! Some were dismissed from the Navy altogether and the Senior Enlisted that was involved was Courts-Marshalled, bust and BCD'd. But, that was > 40 yr ago.
Like MSG Dan Castaneda said "...I hope it’s a one time mistake and you can recover from it. There is no greater privilege than serving our nation. Never forget that...."
Finally, ask yourself this question PFC (Join to see) if you were high in the field firing a 155 or 105 or what ever the USA has these days and some American Troops were down range a counter-insergents near the enemy and you miscalculate tragectory and were in the end responsible for killing them and not the enemy and one or two of your best friends in all the world were in the group of Americans you killed how would you feel. There is your ASS CHEWING by a Navy Chief.
GTFU anc CTBS. You skills and many lives depend on you be sober in your duties. Own up, understand your duty and remember you are a man who pride in himself and his nation should be your first order of business!!!
I once saw ~20 of 30 students in a Hospital Corpsman Basic school class in the late 1970s get dismissed from school with a number of them sent to the fleet! Some were dismissed from the Navy altogether and the Senior Enlisted that was involved was Courts-Marshalled, bust and BCD'd. But, that was > 40 yr ago.
Like MSG Dan Castaneda said "...I hope it’s a one time mistake and you can recover from it. There is no greater privilege than serving our nation. Never forget that...."
Finally, ask yourself this question PFC (Join to see) if you were high in the field firing a 155 or 105 or what ever the USA has these days and some American Troops were down range a counter-insergents near the enemy and you miscalculate tragectory and were in the end responsible for killing them and not the enemy and one or two of your best friends in all the world were in the group of Americans you killed how would you feel. There is your ASS CHEWING by a Navy Chief.
GTFU anc CTBS. You skills and many lives depend on you be sober in your duties. Own up, understand your duty and remember you are a man who pride in himself and his nation should be your first order of business!!!
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The Military has a very good drug treatment plan. I am currently studying for Chemical Abuse Counseling Certification. The best thing anyone can do is Come clean about Alcohol or Drug Addiction to the command. They will assign the individual to a very good treatment program. If a soldier does not seek treatment for addiction and comes up hot on a drug test or is a chronic alcoholic. Treatment can be made mandatory with Non Judicial Punishment and a Bar to Re-Enlist. It doesn't matter what the substance is Marijuana, Meth, Alcohol what ever the consequences are the same. The best thing is to report the addiction and seek help. No administrative actions will be made if a soldier steps up and seeks help for a problem like drug addiction. If the soldier tries to hide it and comes up hot then that is a differernt story.
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We had several failures after a port call in Jamaica, and all but one resulted in discharge.
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Processing for elimination from the service is the response with which I am most familiar. It is the appropriate action in my opinion.
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In my units, normally the BN Cdr took jurisdiction on all drug test failures. Immediate field grade Art 15 with maxed punishment, then shipped to leg land ( this was before chapters became prevalent)
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PFC (Join to see) While I was at my AIT post in Denver '83, on an AF Base, one of the guys got stopped at the gate and weed was found in the vehicle. When asked to inform on others for leniency, He must have said everyone in the Barracks, or named enough of us that Command decided to test all of us. We all came up positive(it's a miracle). Chain of custody was looked at and except for the pvts that admitted to smoking, everyone else was exonerated. There is a moral here.
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The fact that it's national guard actually makes me wonder, assuming you're under state authority (instead of federal) and assuming that marijuana is legal in your state if you could potentially avoid punishment. (Presumably any security clearance would be pulled)
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I know when I was in if you self reported you were put into a treatment program that actually counted for promotion points as it was military education. If you popped hot you were in for a quick exit to the military.
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The one and ONLY time I saw someone "escape" a failed UA was when they were able to prove (brought in witness statements) that they had been drugged (came up hot for MDMA) without their knowledge at a party. Even then, they still had to go to ASAP and were counseled about choosing better situations and better friends.
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