Posted on May 28, 2015
Sgt Jeffrey Clish
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Especially coming from enlisted ranks, transitioning to a corporate role via a period in college can be difficult. I received a great piece of advice that helped me move up the ranks to the executive level. What advice did other's get as being in a Corps is a positive and negative for corporate cultures.
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1LT Nick Kidwell
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Keep in mind that it is not the military, and sometimes a military mindset works against you.

I am a teacher, but I currently work in private security. With the preponderance of veterans in the workplace, I made the incorrect assumption that approaching my job as a hard-charger, with a high-speed-low-drag approach was the way to go. One co-worker (a combat arms NCO in the ARNG) called me an over-achiever, and the people with EMS/LEO background took great exception to it.
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Cpl Jeff N.
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The suspense is killing me Jeff, what was the advice you received?

I like you came from the enlisted ranks and have been with a fortune 100 company for amost 28 years and have done pretty well advancing my career into senior management.

I don't know that it was advice I received specifically so much but a state of mind that I gained from the Marine Corps. I worked hard, outworked my peers, was focused on results, not activity. I leaned on the leadership skills I learned and tried to make myself invaluable to the company (as much as any one person can be anyway).

I also learned that being close to customers, big customers, was also very helpful. When you help drive revenue and profit for a company you become valuable to them and many will repay you for that effort.

I found it pretty easy to advance past many folks. I started at the bottom of the company and did it the old fashioned way.
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Sgt Cody Dumont
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Don't loose sight of your principles, and maintain discipline. Tact will get you everywhere, and being over bearing will get you no where. Don't forget where you came from and don't loose sight of where you are going.
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What was the one piece of advice you got to make your transition to corporate life easier?
Sgt Jeffrey Clish
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I think both Nick's and David's response above was spot on as I had similar experiences. When I transitioned from the Corps, I got a DD-214 and a "Good Luck" but not much else. I immediately enrolled in college and picked up a government job right after graduation. The only issue was I was aggressive and ambitious, but I didn't really have a plan. I quickly moved to consulting and initially started consulting back to the Military, which seemed like a good fit. However, the best piece of advice I got was from a colleague of mine who was a former Commander in the Navy. We were discussing our transition one day and he say: "To be successful in the corporate world, you have to know when to wear your SgtMaj rank and when to where your Colonel rank because you need to know how to play both roles." He went on to say that the corporate environment needs qualities of both in their ranks. Both are leaders, both are good at what they do, and both have an unwavering drive to get the mission done. However, they both have a different approach. SgtMaj's take care of the troops, make sure the morale is high, and get in the fighting hole to talk to the Marine when needed (reminds me of a time our Battalion SgtMaj. jumped into my fighting hole I dug at Camp Lejeune during work ups for our Med pump. Rained all day and I was standing in 2 feet of water, but he jumped in anyway and made sure we had what we needed, cracked a few jokes, and moved on to the next hole). I respected that and realized that you need to take care of your troops, getting in the trenches with them, and let them know you’re not in this alone. Additionally, as a Colonel you need the vision for where you’re going and a drive to surround yourself with talented people and let them do their job. Build a good team, give them all the responsibility and authority to do their job, and then hold them accountable. I respected this as well when bosses I worked for gave me a lot of responsibility and authority and let me succeed or fail on my own. The good ones rise quickly when they know people are counting on them to deliver. So, the best advice I got was “Know when to be the Sgt.Maj. and when to be the Colonel.”
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SFC Rich Carey
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Didn't receive any advice and was told you need to pick something and do it.
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
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They did not give us any advice other than "Good luck!"
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Cpl Jeff N.
Cpl Jeff N.
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That was about it David. There were no transition classes, no effort to prepare you for anything outside of the Corps. It was go figure it out time. I'm not so sure that isn't the best way to do it either.
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
Sgt David G Duchesneau
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You are so right Jeff. I just got back from Nam and the Marine Corps was mustering us out so quickly that it wasn't funny. They just kept throwing papers in front of me and asking me to sign them. I had no idea what the hell I was signing. That is how we transitioned out in 1970. Good thing I had enough sense to become a State Trooper., and I used the GI Bill to get my Criminology and psychology degrees.
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COL Nathaniel Young
COL Nathaniel Young
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The one key, and pivotal piece of advice, was to de-militarize my resume. The civilian world does not necessarily despise our service, discipline and training, but they do despise the jargon we have become so comfortable using...and it all makes sense to us, rightfully so, but not to them. You have to take every sentence of your resume and convert it to civilian jargon and lingo. There are no shortcuts. Remember, you are not writing the resume for yourself. That is a hard concept to understand, but the sooner you grasp that aspect of transition...the sooner you will start landing interviews and selection!
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Sgt Jeffrey Andre
Sgt Jeffrey Andre
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I agree with that. Nobody said anything, Doc, gave me my health records and told me to make a copy of everything. That was the best advice since I had broke my back during night maneuvers. What the Corps gave to me without having to say anything , was they taught to adapt, adjust, and overcome any challenge. To never settle to just get by, but do it so good you become an asset to the mission - whatever it may be. So advice leaving, no. It has been drilled into us and we lived it everyday. Our superiors set the example everday. There are seminars for for employees in private sector that teach: how to dress for success, appearance, respect, and motivation. A Marine lived this way without any seminar. So they said a lot before we never needed to be told twice. Semper Fidelis
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