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What will Obama and Putin talk about?
RP Members interesting article from Prof. Vladimir Kozin is the leading Russian expert on disarmament and strategic stability issues, exclusively for ORIENTAL REVIEW. Your thoughts?
The “war” refugees?
The “coalition” vs. ISIS?
The White House has openly advocated for the armed overthrow of the current Syrian regime, and never renounced that goal.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/26/what-will-obama-and-putin-talk-about/
In this final week before Vladimir Putin addresses the UN General Assembly, there has been a flurry of contact between Washington and Moscow. And by that I don’t just mean the Sept. 18 telephone call between the defense ministers of Russia and the US.
Russia’s beefed up military presence in Syria has clearly sparked a whole series of informal consultations, the culmination of which should be a meeting between the leaders of Russia and the United States on the sidelines of the General Assembly.
The key topics during their talks will undoubtedly be the refugee crisis and the fight against the Islamic State, the latter having about as much to do with Islam as ‘Russian dressing’ has to do with Russia.
RP Members interesting article from Prof. Vladimir Kozin is the leading Russian expert on disarmament and strategic stability issues, exclusively for ORIENTAL REVIEW. Your thoughts?
The “war” refugees?
The “coalition” vs. ISIS?
The White House has openly advocated for the armed overthrow of the current Syrian regime, and never renounced that goal.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/26/what-will-obama-and-putin-talk-about/
In this final week before Vladimir Putin addresses the UN General Assembly, there has been a flurry of contact between Washington and Moscow. And by that I don’t just mean the Sept. 18 telephone call between the defense ministers of Russia and the US.
Russia’s beefed up military presence in Syria has clearly sparked a whole series of informal consultations, the culmination of which should be a meeting between the leaders of Russia and the United States on the sidelines of the General Assembly.
The key topics during their talks will undoubtedly be the refugee crisis and the fight against the Islamic State, the latter having about as much to do with Islam as ‘Russian dressing’ has to do with Russia.
Barack Obama
Foreign Affairs
Foreign Policy
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The topic of discussion is the resolution of the Syrian conflict, of course.....
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They will talk about Cap and Trade and Carbon taxes in Crimea and West Ossetia.
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LTC Stephen Conway
They discussed how they both hate The Kardassians show and how they can't believe Bruce Jenner earned Gold Medals but still not happy with himself.
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LTC Stephen Conway
Or they will talk about reducing the carbon footprint of JP-8 in the Ukraine and how the U.S. can help with the power outage in Crimea.
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lol ... "so what do you want me to do?" lol should I finish the story? lol
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs - sir, did you watch the recent 60 minutes clip with the interview with Pres. Putin? He's an interesting character. My guess would be that they talk about Syria and Russia's involvement to support the Assad regime and to seek a middle ground with US support. I believe Pres. Obama will work more towards leaving Assad in place, but only for a transitional period. In the end, both sides win. Only time will tell.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
LTC (Join to see) Wow, I missed it. I bet that was a good interview! Hopefully there will be a repeat of the episode!
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COL Ted Mc
LTC (Join to see) - Captain; The situation in Syria is NOT as simple as many people think.
To most there are three sides to the struggle [1] ISIS, [2] Assad, and [3] "the rebels".
In fact there are well over fifty (50) sides to the struggle [1] ISIS, [2] Assad, and [3.01] "the rebels", [3.02] "the rebels", [3.03] "the rebels" ... [3.nn] "the rebels", with almost every one of [3.xx] group fighting every other member of the [3.xx] group.
That means that, for all practical purposes, the possible outcomes are [1] ISIS wins and rules Syria as a brutal dictatorship, [2] Assad wins and rules Syria as a brutal dictatorship, and [3] "the rebels" win and Syria continues to be in the grip of a brutal civil war.
Thus, realistically, none of the options are desirable - but Option [2] is the least undesirable of the bunch.
To most there are three sides to the struggle [1] ISIS, [2] Assad, and [3] "the rebels".
In fact there are well over fifty (50) sides to the struggle [1] ISIS, [2] Assad, and [3.01] "the rebels", [3.02] "the rebels", [3.03] "the rebels" ... [3.nn] "the rebels", with almost every one of [3.xx] group fighting every other member of the [3.xx] group.
That means that, for all practical purposes, the possible outcomes are [1] ISIS wins and rules Syria as a brutal dictatorship, [2] Assad wins and rules Syria as a brutal dictatorship, and [3] "the rebels" win and Syria continues to be in the grip of a brutal civil war.
Thus, realistically, none of the options are desirable - but Option [2] is the least undesirable of the bunch.
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LTC Stephen Conway
Or how about Steve Croft a few minutes ago reaming the President about Isis and the hundreds of millions spent to just have a few moderates trained but most fled to other opposition groups.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs - Mikel; An interesting article.
Unfortunately about the only part of it that I can agree with is the "One gets the impression that the primary, secret purpose of Washington’s interest in talking to Moscow about ways to resolve the Syrian conflict is actually to block any expansion of the military-technical cooperation between Russia and Syria, thus depriving Russia of some of her best leverage in her efforts to defeat ISIS." bit - which is consistent with the general tenor of "If I can't win then I'm going to make sure that all you have is a wasteland." that appears to characterize American politics today.
Unfortunately about the only part of it that I can agree with is the "One gets the impression that the primary, secret purpose of Washington’s interest in talking to Moscow about ways to resolve the Syrian conflict is actually to block any expansion of the military-technical cooperation between Russia and Syria, thus depriving Russia of some of her best leverage in her efforts to defeat ISIS." bit - which is consistent with the general tenor of "If I can't win then I'm going to make sure that all you have is a wasteland." that appears to characterize American politics today.
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Personally I would hope that they will talk about a way to help the refugees, but I feel the conversation will be a more militaristic view on how to stop the main problem and then figure out a way to help the ones affected. In my opinion they may try to talk about a way they both can try and figure out a solution to pushing the fight out of Syria. Syrian refugees are a big issue, but I don't see a way we could really help them without relieving the starter problem first.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
PO3 (Join to see) There is always a lot of jockeying back and forth to compromise and gain the better ground, but I hope they will stop this "Cold War" like mentality!
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs - Sir, I don't think there will be a time anytime soon where they will stop the mentality. In ways it hinders us, but we also advance a lot through it. We made a lot of advances in the actual Cold War and I think we still could. I do see what you are say though, the down falls are starting to out way the up sides.
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