Posted on Aug 22, 2014
What would you do if a Senior NCO told you, you can't say HOOAH because he/she doesn't like it?
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Then tried to make you write a 5000 word essay on Customs and Courtesies on where does it say you can say HOOAH. Would you write it or fight for your writes to be able to say it?
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Same here.. I would say it anyway and drive on. What could he/she do to me? Nothing.. I outrank him/her. ;)
SGT(P) Kenneth Jones
Thats what i was going to say sir but none the less i would agree say hooah push on and say highly motivated selfdriven hoooooooah.
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In this scenario, the SNCO is enforcing a pet peeve and not a regulation. This is what is wrong with the military. With all the problems we have with suicides, sexual assaults, Soldiers failing to follow rules and regulations, and other major problems, we have people worried about walking on the grass and saying the word "hooah". We can all give you advice but we are not actually there. If you feel it is worth the fight, then there are channels to follow to fight it. Personally, I feel it is a waste of your time and that of the SNCO. Talk with your chain of command is the place to start. Hope it works out in your favor. It is things like this that makes Soldiers want to leave the military.
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I actually did fight it, requested to use the open door policy and speak to the 1SG. So then the SNCO called me saying it was a joke. I just shook my head and drove on. I thought it was dumb and why is this person abusing their rank. MSG Case you are correct there are more serious things to worry about, but I wasn't the only the SNCO tried make write the essay, but I was the only one that decided to stand up and say something. It's sad they would agree to it just because it was a SNCO even when we knew it was not against Army Reg.
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MAJ Michael Roe
I know a garrison commander that had the MPs enforcing his pet peeves. Realizing how corrupt and self centered some of our leaders were helped in my decision to retire when I did. You can say that it is just a few people, but these guys were selected by a board.
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As a 11B I will tell you this, I personally hate word Hooah. Hooah can mean anything, but given that it has tradition it is not my place to rewrite military conduct that does not detract from the appearance of good order and discipline.
So with regards to your scenario. I can definitely see a one sided (subjective) approach and opinion on the matter. I can also see the wrong in applying corrective training to satisfy one's person opinion or to correct personal distaste. The problem with issues like these is that they occur way too often.
What a lot of people fail to realize is that although publications concerning this matter are the MCM2012, Standards of Conduct: AR 600-50 which acknowledges "time honored traditions of the uniformed services", Customs and Courtesy: AR 600-25 which illustrates verbatim what a greeting is, and Command Policy: AR 600-20 which states that propper English is the operational language of the US Army...that you must simply use good judgement.
To correct a Soldier is to rectify a issue, not to redefine Army policy one would like. I would say, stick to your guns. We have a lot of unwritten "Time Honored Traditions". We loose more and more of these everyday, and although some one may not like it... more so a senior NCO, it is our CHARGE to put ourselves aside and to practice best judgement in favor of our Soldiers, unit, and country.
So which that: HOOAH Sergeant, find your first line leader or next above or equal to, and have them address the inequity for you.
Inequity, being that someone has applied self to a regulation or policy or has misinterpreted it to satisfy a personal opinion and is now punishing another by virtue of it.
Now I must ask, is this based on a true event? I would venture to think that there are more pressing issues needing to be addressed.
So with regards to your scenario. I can definitely see a one sided (subjective) approach and opinion on the matter. I can also see the wrong in applying corrective training to satisfy one's person opinion or to correct personal distaste. The problem with issues like these is that they occur way too often.
What a lot of people fail to realize is that although publications concerning this matter are the MCM2012, Standards of Conduct: AR 600-50 which acknowledges "time honored traditions of the uniformed services", Customs and Courtesy: AR 600-25 which illustrates verbatim what a greeting is, and Command Policy: AR 600-20 which states that propper English is the operational language of the US Army...that you must simply use good judgement.
To correct a Soldier is to rectify a issue, not to redefine Army policy one would like. I would say, stick to your guns. We have a lot of unwritten "Time Honored Traditions". We loose more and more of these everyday, and although some one may not like it... more so a senior NCO, it is our CHARGE to put ourselves aside and to practice best judgement in favor of our Soldiers, unit, and country.
So which that: HOOAH Sergeant, find your first line leader or next above or equal to, and have them address the inequity for you.
Inequity, being that someone has applied self to a regulation or policy or has misinterpreted it to satisfy a personal opinion and is now punishing another by virtue of it.
Now I must ask, is this based on a true event? I would venture to think that there are more pressing issues needing to be addressed.
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I too, abhor the word because it can mean anything from "roger that" to "everything is awesome, but in a many Army way!" and even to "fuck you, but you outrank me, so fuck me I have to do what you say".
Still, everything you say is correct, and in the situation, I would warn my subordinates about my disdain for the word and let them know that the more they use it the more unforgiving I become.
Still, everything you say is correct, and in the situation, I would warn my subordinates about my disdain for the word and let them know that the more they use it the more unforgiving I become.
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I would have to say that the infantry is the most unfriendly MOS to the word Hooah. I can't stand it.
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It is based on a true story. I know there are more pressing issues, but the abuse starts with something small like this.
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