Posted on Feb 17, 2014
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If you felt that you were doing the same amount of work and accomplishing the same things as your peers in your platoon, who are receiving a 1/1 or 2/1 on their NCOER, and you were receiving a 2/2, what course of action would/could you take?<br>
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<p>First of all: The reg and guidance for appealing your NCOER is AR 623-3</p><p><br></p><p>The AR suggests that you try to consult your rating chain and then chain of command before you sign your evaluation and it is sent to HQDA.</p><p><br></p><p>Secondly: There has been a misunderstanding over the last few years that if you're not getting a 1/1 on your NCOER, then you are somehow a dirtbag.&nbsp; This is the furthest thing from the truth.</p><p><br></p><p>A 1/1 means "Among the Best."&nbsp; Therefore, everyone cannot be "the best."&nbsp; If everyone is the best, then everyone is mediocre.&nbsp; A 1/1 is for that rare "Super Trooper" who excels at everything s/he does and touches.&nbsp; After work, s/he volunteers, betters his/her unit and community, and does truly awesome things.&nbsp; All in all, someone who everyone looks up to and admires.</p><p><br></p><p>A 2/2 means that you are an above average NCO and a credit to your unit.&nbsp; Your potential for greatness is also pretty above average.&nbsp; You are above center-mass, but not that "Super Soldier."&nbsp; Nothing to be ashamed of.</p><p><br></p><p>A 3/3 means you came in, did your job, passed your APFT, and didn't get in any trouble.&nbsp; You're not on anyone's radar for being great or trouble.&nbsp; Again, nothing to be ashamed of, but nothing to really be proud of either.</p><p><br></p><p>4 &amp; 5: Well, you need some work.&nbsp; If you're not improving, you should be dusting off that resume.</p><p><br></p><p>So if you're giving everyone a 1/1, you're devaluing what a 1/1 REALLY is and means.&nbsp; If you think you always deserve a 1/1, and your command isn't throwing medals at you or parades for you, then you are either misunderstanding the evaluation system or are fooling yourself.</p>
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You hit it spot-on about the devaluation of the 1/1. So many soldiers I feel are given 1/1 when they are necessarily among the best. When they do eventually get rated by a leader that rates to standard, they feel like they have been done an injustice.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Unfortunately those numbers are completely subjective, so it's a tough fight.  One can debate a factual inaccuracy, but it's hard to prove/disprove an arbitrary number that essentially serves as someone's opinion of you.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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The regulation allows you to dispute the accuracy of information. The scores your assigned are opinions, they are incapable of being wrong. If I believe you are a 3/3 by my criteria, than thats what you are. If I say you did something you didn't do, that disputable. But my opinion of you is just that.
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CSM Michael Poll
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A 2/2 is a difficult fight, as a 1/1 is the best of the best.  A rater does not have to provide consellings for a good NCEOR.  A 2/2 is a good NCOER so the only course of action you have is to ask your rater and SR Rater about it.  Remember that signing the NCOER ony means that the administrative blocks are correct.  It does not mean that you agree with the evaluation.  It is difficult to give you more advise without knowing you nor reading the NCOER.  Knowing what the rater and SR Rater sees in you etc.  I would ask them what you did or need to do be among the best.
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Thanks CSM.
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