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Service members move up to key positions based on who they know while others are not given a chance to show their capabilities or potential.
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Probably one of the most frustrating and counterproductive things I've seen in the Army. I would think the only way to squash it is to have quality leaders who are promoted out of merit, and not by their connections. Yet it still happens and it continues the vicious cycle of installing incompetent and corrupt leaders, while frustrating the Soldiers who actually have potential and want to make the organization a better place, who end up leaving because they see they things will never change...
In short, it's the persistent elephant in the room, but it takes senior leaders and commanders to put a stop to it.
In short, it's the persistent elephant in the room, but it takes senior leaders and commanders to put a stop to it.
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WO1 (Join to see) I would hope this type of thing is the exception rather than the norm. If this happens it is a shame and is a product of the command climate. As leaders, we are all responsible for stopping this cycle if we see it. The opportunity for soldiers to have an equal chance to be successful based on their own merits is essential to a positive command and team-centric environment.
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Reputation and "who you know" is a fact of life. I'll argue that we are all ingrained to favor those who we are familiar with and those who have proven themselves to be competent in the past (reputation). Is it wrong to favor NCOs whom I have served with in the past and have proven themselves to be great leaders? They are the first I would fight for if I see them on an inbound gains roster.
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MAJ (Join to see)
SSG Rodney, I agree with you to a point. It's not about "liking" the individual. However, if said NCO has proven themselves in the past, why wouldn't I want him or her on my team now?
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You asked a very good question. I have found that some people considered the good old buddy system just networking. Be it good, bad or indifferent there will be "buddy systems" in all aspects of life (military and civilian). So instead of focusing on the system, it is really more helpful just to know what you bring to the table and know your worth.
Become the subject matter expert in your area of responsibility and remain competitive. Watch the negative influences around you that will try to have you focus on the injustices. It is so counter productive, because your positive energy can be pulled from you. You need that energy to focus on your next promotion or transitioning from the military (depending on where you are in your career). Last, you are developing your character, skills, knowledge, and abilities which the military is preparing you for a life long journey of success (post military). I hope this make sense.
Become the subject matter expert in your area of responsibility and remain competitive. Watch the negative influences around you that will try to have you focus on the injustices. It is so counter productive, because your positive energy can be pulled from you. You need that energy to focus on your next promotion or transitioning from the military (depending on where you are in your career). Last, you are developing your character, skills, knowledge, and abilities which the military is preparing you for a life long journey of success (post military). I hope this make sense.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
1SG Trina Hines, M. Ed. this is one of the best and most succinct answers I have ever seen. Don't let the obstacles blur your focus.
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This was a problem, a very bad problem in the 80's & 90's....with all the programs available to help us feel good about ourselves, it seems to not be as big a problem....many complain they don't get an opportunity however, they do not seek the opportunity to truly show they are amongst the best and deserve the better opportunities.
Have you made yourself competitive, like competing for entry into clubs like the Sergeant Audie Murphy Club? That would prove you to be the most eligible.
Have you made yourself competitive, like competing for entry into clubs like the Sergeant Audie Murphy Club? That would prove you to be the most eligible.
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WO1 (Join to see)
CSM this is not my situation, believe every duty stationi been, I had made an impact in a good way. As far as competitive entry club with all the respect, is where more of this good old buddy system take place.
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
That's a very unfortunate perspective based on your experiences and one I shared as well until I was personally challenged by my BN CSM (when I was a SFC) to attend and upon initiation into the SAMC I would receive a better position....I took the challenge and was given the opportunity to move into a MSG position as a very junior SFC. You cannot give up, every leader is different, you have to keep trying and above everything else, you have to be fair and impartial with your subordinates.
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WO1 (Join to see)
CSM my work Ethic and experience had given me the opportunity to hold a MSG position since 2013. Your advice will be take in consideration, the word give up is not showing on my dictionary. As an NCO I always lead from the front.
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All I can say is that the worst nco I have ever had was a product of this. NCOs now worry way to much about bullets on an NCOER and impressing their superiors. If they worried only about their two basic responsibilities, accomplishment of their mission, and the welfare of their soldiers, the damn bullets would write themselves.
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Based on the size of the panel of voters in centralized promotions. Just knowing one person doesn't really do you any good when it comes to the senior ranks. IMO
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SGT (Join to see)
But the good ol' boy system and a little brown nosing makes some peoples' evaluations look better than what they really deserve.
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