Posted on Nov 6, 2015
When are you authorized to wear two of the same ribbon?
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When are you authorized to wear two of the same ribbon? I've only seen it one time and it's on the current Sergeant Major of the Army's dress uniform he wears two AAM ribbons.
DA Pam 670-1
Dress Uniform
Awards
Ribbons
Posted 10 y ago
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Here's another version to the same question. Any service member who previous served in another branch is authorized to wear the equivalent from their respective branch. For example, if a soldier earned a good conduct medal while in the navy, he is authorized to wear the navy and army conduct medals side by side, he does not have to double up on his army medal.
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I've been retired a while, so rules change, and I may not be up to speed, but I always spending more money everytime I got new award, so at some point I just said (literally) "Fuck It" I'm not spending more of my wife's money for this stupid shit". Isn't representing 9 enough, when you get to choose, by regulation, what awards you wear?
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MAJ Daniel Buchholz
You can never really get in trouble for _not_ wearing an award that you have earned (unless the Commander has required the wear of all items), the reverse (wearing what you have not earned) has killed more careers than can be counted...
Let's face it, no one is really judging you if you have 9 vs 10 AAM's.
Let's face it, no one is really judging you if you have 9 vs 10 AAM's.
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Saw this response one but not well explained. The other time that two of the same ribbon can be worn is if one is awarded for valor and the other for service (e.g. ARCOM, MSM, AM, ect)
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If you have been awarded a national guard state award that is th same as a federal or UN ribbon. Like the Ohio Service Ribbon and the United Nations Medal are identical.
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An oak leaf cluster is a military device worn on a ribbon decoration to denote multiple receptions of the same award. The use of the oak leaf cluster allows an individual to show that he has received multiple awards of the same type without having to wear multiple ribbons of the same type. These devices are most often used with U.S. Army and U.S....
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SSG Mark Metzler
Continuing, Pin a bronze oak leaf cluster to a military ribbon. A bronze oak leaf cluster requires a single additional ribbon. A single oak leaf represents the second award. So, if an individual receives five of the same decoration, she would wear a ribbon with four bronze oak leaf clusters.
Remove five bronze oak leaf clusters and replace them with a single silver oak leaf cluster. A silver oak leaf cluster replaces five bronze oak leaf clusters. If the individual receives six of the same decoration, he would wear a ribbon with a single silver oak leaf cluster.
Pin both bronze and silver oak leaf clusters on the ribbon if an individual receives more than six of the same award. The silver oak leaf cluster should be pinned to the wearer's right of any bronze oak leaf clusters.
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Remove five bronze oak leaf clusters and replace them with a single silver oak leaf cluster. A silver oak leaf cluster replaces five bronze oak leaf clusters. If the individual receives six of the same decoration, he would wear a ribbon with a single silver oak leaf cluster.
Pin both bronze and silver oak leaf clusters on the ribbon if an individual receives more than six of the same award. The silver oak leaf cluster should be pinned to the wearer's right of any bronze oak leaf clusters.
Read more : http://www.ehow.com/how_8144705_use-bronze-oak-leaf-clusters.html
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How to Use Silver Vs. Bronze Oak Leaf Clusters | eHow
An oak leaf cluster is a military device worn on a ribbon decoration to denote multiple receptions of the same award. The use of the oak leaf cluster allows an individual to show that he has received multiple awards of the same type without having to wear multiple ribbons of the same type. These devices are most often used with U.S. Army and U.S....
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Maybe they ought to change the reg so that when you get so many AAMs you can trade them in for an ARCOM or MSM?
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SSG Wayne Wood
With my tongue out of my cheek now, I totally agree - I never had to worry about that myself, back when I was in it seemed medals came hard and few and far between - but I did know one guy who had something like six ARCOMs, he was one of those guys that seemed to get an ARCOM for getting out of the bed in the morning. I remember he was complaining because he had just gotten his sixth ARCOM for finishing another three years in the 82nd (we called that the 82nd Abn Survival ARCOM) - he was complaining because he thought he was hoping for an MSM. The silence in the room was deafening.
I received an MSM when I was forced to take a medical discharge after almost 13 years combined service - and I wasn't "supposed" to get that high of an award because the new Commanding General of XVIII Abn Corps & Ft Bragg instituted a policy restricting awards higher than an ARCOM to E-7s and above as, in his opinion, lower ranks rarely merited a higher award. Fortunately for me, at the time I left service I had some people in high places in 82nd DivArty and XVIII Corps G-3 who went to bat for my award.
I use my own experiences here as I believe they illustrate some of the peculiarities in the awards system that apparently hasn't changed in the 28 years since I left service. I don't know how many times I was told I'd been put in for or deserved an ARCOM or AAM I never saw for what ever reason - and then some of the doo-dads I wore on my chest I received for things I just thought was doing my job. Then there are the "water walkers" like the guy I mentioned above. I guess it all evens out in the long run. Sorry so long.
I received an MSM when I was forced to take a medical discharge after almost 13 years combined service - and I wasn't "supposed" to get that high of an award because the new Commanding General of XVIII Abn Corps & Ft Bragg instituted a policy restricting awards higher than an ARCOM to E-7s and above as, in his opinion, lower ranks rarely merited a higher award. Fortunately for me, at the time I left service I had some people in high places in 82nd DivArty and XVIII Corps G-3 who went to bat for my award.
I use my own experiences here as I believe they illustrate some of the peculiarities in the awards system that apparently hasn't changed in the 28 years since I left service. I don't know how many times I was told I'd been put in for or deserved an ARCOM or AAM I never saw for what ever reason - and then some of the doo-dads I wore on my chest I received for things I just thought was doing my job. Then there are the "water walkers" like the guy I mentioned above. I guess it all evens out in the long run. Sorry so long.
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SSG Wayne Wood
I know he's beyond caring now, but I think he should have gotten an MOH just for being Chesty Puller without trading in a single Navy Cross. I always shake my head that with everything that guy did someone in his chain didn't say, "Hey..." on at least one of his exploits. JMO.
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While it may be authorized to wear a second AAM representing your 10th award, I find it a little bit ridiculous. I think I would just wear the one ribbon with appurtences showing 9th award. Especially for such a low award. I equate the second ribbon to wearing the Expert badge for Grenade.
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SSG Robert Webster
CSM (Join to see) - Why would a soldier buy two different racks, when he could continue to use the previous rack that they possessed and use the new one for the DA photo?
And what about the spirit of the directive in paragraph 22-2, Chapter 22, AR 670-1? Or think about it this way; Wearing the two ribbons for the DA Photo is mandatory IAW regulations, where on other occasions, unless mandated (and in this case usually directly mandated), it is at the discretion of the service member.
And what about the spirit of the directive in paragraph 22-2, Chapter 22, AR 670-1? Or think about it this way; Wearing the two ribbons for the DA Photo is mandatory IAW regulations, where on other occasions, unless mandated (and in this case usually directly mandated), it is at the discretion of the service member.
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CSM (Join to see)
You're reading too deeply SSG W.....at some point the previous writer bought a rack (bought rack # 1 for say XX ribbons). If he was awarded a 10th of anything...he's stuck with either not having it put on his records (since he previously declared it "a bit ridiculous" and said he'd "just wear the one") ..... or if he had it in his records, he'd be required to wear it for a DA photo. (hence bought rack #2 for XX + 1). Hence my comment about "having" two racks (I believe you took it literally as if in the end he'd have purchased three)
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1SG (Join to see)
If he didn't wear it someone would be busting his ? About not wearing it, lol. Damned if you do and .......
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