Posted on Oct 29, 2016
SGT C Mendez
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I recently posted on RP in reference to people falsely claiming PTSD through the VA. I am all about a spirited conversation with different points of view but it doesn't mean that one should shame an individual for claiming PTSD benefits. An individual on RP attempted to shame a fellow Veteran about his PTSD and knocked RP for creating a supportive platform. What do you think?
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CWO3 Retired
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To those veterans who can admit that they need help with what they are going through, I salute you. To those veterans that mock others who need help, I say to you go seek help because you really do need it.
S/F,
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Must be old school. That attitude is left over from the WWII and Korean War days. I asked my Uncle about it back in the 90's, a combat Korean War vet. Shell shock and why it didn't seem we had too many PTSD from back then. He said they didn't treat it much back then, it was a stigma no one wanted to admit they had it and they learned to deal with it by themselves, they had families to support and needed to work. He said most coped with alcohol, vets with serious "shell shock" went to jail, just got killed committed suicide or died. He said that's why they didn't talk about the war. He had a lifelong friend he joined with, fought with and got out with and to this day they never discussed ANYTHING about the service. No veteran organizations, no parades, no war movies, no war talk. He finally went on a trip hosted by the Korean Government and accepted a medal and thanks from them forhaving served. My Aunt said it was pretty emotional and he STILL didn't talk about it after that. His word was "stigma" and how his generation viewed it. Apparently after reading this, it still goes on.
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CPT Duane Caswell
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My dad was with the 101st Airborne in WWII and never talked about it until he became aware of my struggles with PTSD just before he died. He told me some of what he lived with like liberating death camps. It made me take a less harsh attitude toward his alcoholism. I wish we could have had that conversation earlier.
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PO2 Ben Ferguson
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Never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. These wounded warriors need support and compassion not shunning and shaming. TBI, PTSD are real wounds of war...not some ploy to get sympathy.
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Cpl Glynis Sakowicz
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Picture it, old bad-tempered graying redhead who stands all of 5'2 jumping in and taking on several rude, foul-mouthed teenagers when a man wearing a USMC tee shirt just folds ups into a little ball of horror when fireworks go off.
They were laughing and I am happy to say that my autistic daughter leaped right in as well, "Don't laugh... he's in hell... just go away!!" she bellowed, and I'm proud to say there is something about a statuesque blonde with waving fists and a voice like a bull horn that made them run. It took about an hour before we managed to relax him and get him to accept help getting out of there.
I can understand Civilians doing something like that, but when its other military who should know better, then I've got a really big problem.
You don't have to understand it, you don't need to tiptoe around it... just accept it as fact, and move on. Some of us can be in war zones without aftereffects that are so painful... some just have different stressors than others... its all part of what each of us has been thru in our lives and there's no way to know who will and who won't have it, and its not a sign of a weak mind or someone who 'CAN'T HANDLE' something.
There but for the grace of God, my friends... have a little understanding and don't let others get away with it when you see it, because we are loosing far too many of our brothers and sisters every single day to this horrible thing.
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Col Val Finnell, MD, MPH
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Unacceptable
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SPC Brian Mason
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It's not and who told you it was? There will ALWAYS be shammers and fakers in every aspect of life. It in NO way means all of a certain group are.
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SGT C Mendez
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Totally got you and I agree. With anything that we do, there are going to be fakers. But what really set me off was that it came from a Veteran who is not collecting disability benefits and has a chip on his shoulder about the VA. Granted, the VA is not the best but that gave him no right to shame a Veteran for receiving benefits. I know its not acceptable and that's why I stepped up and said something to him.
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SPC Brian Mason
SPC Brian Mason
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The VA and VA Hospital are always going to be understaffed and here's why. The whole military, all components of each, will require healthcare at some point and their entire life. Just the same as the civilian healthcare system. For us, there are double digit millions of veterans alone. Look at the staff that works for the VA Healthcare. Subtract everyone who is support: maintenance, cleaners, CS, scheduling, Travel, Pharmacy, etc. What you have left are the ONLY medical professional that can see, diagnose, and treat (physically) every military person and veteran assigned to that location. It's a tiny FRACTION compared to those of us who need care.
Hands-on medical professionals (nurses, surgeons, and doctors) can't be forced to work at the VA. Even with the 'great' government pay, being overworked so much and so long isn't worth it to many of them. Until the VA system in it's entirety is fixed, it's not those working for the VA who are to blame. It's the high paid, fancy pants, CEOs and such who just 'make the decisions' and do NOTHING physically for it.
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SPC Brian Mason
SPC Brian Mason
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I have yet to see ANY healthcare system 'work'. Obama Care was a fluke and his way of taking a spot in the history books alongside being President. The name SEETHES narcissism. A single-payer system will be WORSE than we've ever had. Don't forget the Illegal Immigrants who put a further drain on this country. Why they are still here......
Just shows how screwed up most of the people who run this country are.
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GySgt Melissa Gravila
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I feel the need to weigh in here ladies and gentlemen- I personally have been dealing with PTSD/MST and batteling with the VA for over 15 years now. ( I have meds for it, but 0% disability rating? Seriously) It took many years for me to realize what my triggers are and how to "bite my tongue and draw blood" But one thing I won't stand for is for someone to try to shame me because of it! Trust me, it's a good thing I don't work with mind readers! When someone asks what's wrong? There's nothing I can say- they will never understand
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The VA makes the determination if a veteran is suffering from the effects of ptsd, not anyone here. No one has the right to knock anyone for any reason regarding their claims through the VA. If the VA finds their claim meets, or exceeds, the requirements for a rating decision in the SM's favor, the assigned rating is warranted. It really bugs me to see others ragging on other folks over Crud like this. Until you are a VA investigator or claims adjudicator shut the pie hole and move on. Remember, there are other people who think YOU (generic term usage, not personal here) don't deserve the rating(s) you may have. Just my 2 cents on the matter.
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Cpl Kyle Oberst
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We can't coddle those suffering. Like any mental illness the affected can't be allowed to build a wall of self pity and doubt between themselves and the real world.
If we love them we must fight for them.
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SPC Christina Rao
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Hit a nerve here. I've recently been diagnosed with PTSD caused from MST while serving 4 years back in the early 80's . I told NO ONE of the assault nor am I collecting any bene's from the VA. However, PTSD is a serious issue that if not dealt with can and will affect your life, the choice's youve made, the people you surround yourself with and it seriously limits you from obtaining your own self worth. If not treated, one will not be 100% successful in life, relationships, work, etc. I for one give a high five to my DR. at the VA who has showed me thru cognitive therapy that it wasn't my fault, and the way I've been thinking for 30 years was so warped and wrong. I actually had myself believing that it was my fault for enlisting in a man's Army. Anybody that shames a fellow veteran or anybody for having PTSD needs to be educated and perhaps be shit on by a bird after eating blueberries. Shame on them! PTSD CAN BE TREATED!
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