Posted on Nov 21, 2016
When you are looking for a job, what resources are you using to see what jobs are out there?
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You have to network and talk to people... I know of several job openings right now, however by the time they are advertised, they will likely already have been filled. Here is one example of a job available right now at Ft. Hauchuca:
Key Management Instructor Position: Requires Security+ certification, a bachelors degree, and four years teaching experience or more than eight years as an NCO. Salary range is low to mid 70's. If you meet those qualifications and are interested, please send me a copy of your resume.
Key Management Instructor Position: Requires Security+ certification, a bachelors degree, and four years teaching experience or more than eight years as an NCO. Salary range is low to mid 70's. If you meet those qualifications and are interested, please send me a copy of your resume.
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Hi, Corporal Avitabile.
When I graduated college after leaving the AF and was looking for a job, I sent cover letters and resumes to all of the defense contractors I could find in my hometown. That was pretty easy; you could throw a rock and hit three defense agencies in Ft. Walton Beach at the time. The letters and resumes I sent were pretty generic. That is not really the best way to field a resume, but it got my foot in the door with fairly minimal effort and my first post-graduation job. Networking kept me going for a while after that. By the time I left FWB, I had enough marketable experience to write a pretty respectable resume.
When I graduated college after leaving the AF and was looking for a job, I sent cover letters and resumes to all of the defense contractors I could find in my hometown. That was pretty easy; you could throw a rock and hit three defense agencies in Ft. Walton Beach at the time. The letters and resumes I sent were pretty generic. That is not really the best way to field a resume, but it got my foot in the door with fairly minimal effort and my first post-graduation job. Networking kept me going for a while after that. By the time I left FWB, I had enough marketable experience to write a pretty respectable resume.
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Cpl Adam Avitabile
Here, I want to share something with you, that is a similar approach but was very creative! I think this creativity merits face to face :) They sent this to the hiring team.
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Cpl Adam Avitabile
here is the link t the article http://postgradproblems.com/job-seeker-sends-resumes-in-boxes-of-donuts-and-the-interviews-roll-in/
Job Seeker Sends Resumes In Boxes Of Donuts And The Interviews Roll In
Getting to the interview portion of a job search is arguably the roughest portion of the process. You fill out application after application and send countless resumes and cover letters into the void of an online submission box, unsure if they'll ever even be seen by an actual human, much less one who might give…
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SSgt (Join to see)
Cpl Adam Avitabile - I had a friend send gourmet cookies as a show of appreciation to his interviewer. Not doughnuts, but he still got the job.
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Well I was looking through USAJobs, but I had actually received my current employment through word of mouth.
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Cpl Adam Avitabile
Word of mouth will always be your most valuable tool. I think networking is a key to finding a decent job. Many job seekers have the spray and pray mentality when it comes to applying for jobs. Although its good to fire off as many resumes as possible, I rather spend my time getting in front of important connections. Good for you, cheers!
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Cpl Justin Goolsby
Cpl Adam Avitabile - Thanks. You are correct about the spray and pray mentality. When I got out, I was applying to every single position in a 3 state radius trying to snag a hook. It was important to me to land a job first so I could at least plan on finding a dwelling.
Luckily I've been cultivating my reputation and work ethic since I got to the Fleet, so the moment people knew I was getting out, I had people keeping an ear open for anything available.
Luckily I've been cultivating my reputation and work ethic since I got to the Fleet, so the moment people knew I was getting out, I had people keeping an ear open for anything available.
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Networking is the best:
1. Use the phone as much as possible versus Email. Nothing wrong with calling a HR Department to see if a Internet Posting is filled or not or if it is accurate and your making a contact within the company at the same time. Also, nothing wrong with posting like you did here on Social Media boards asking about jobs. You should also leave your home and attend in person professional groups or associations in your area. So for example, I am in IT. I can attend a local Java Users Group say and give a presentation to the users group of how to do something in Java they never thought of before. There are team leads, architects and hiring managers in those groups and if you impress them they will approach you.
2. As stated by others sometimes companies post positions on the internet when they already have a candidate in mind internally. The internet posting is done for legal reasons so the company can state they searched outside the company.
3. Use headhunters and recruiters. They will find you if you setup a linkedIn profile. There are HR folks on linkedIn that will review your profile for free and give you feedback.....just ask. Make sure you sign-up for linked in groups you are interested in such as your former Marine unit or Marine speciality, Groups that talk about skills you have, etc. Make sure that the headhunters or recruiters do not put you up multiple times for the same position. The good ones will usually ask you where you have applied already.
4. Yes you can respond to internet ads but be judicious about it. Rule of thumb, treat the job search as you would a regular job. Take weekends off and evenings off. Also, if your completely unemployed with nothing to do, use your spare time to volunteer or attend community college to improve your skills. Recruiters and HR loves it when they interview someone that is DOING SOMETHING OTHER THAN SEARCHING FOR A JOB.........it speaks volumes on what kind of person you are and your confidence you will land another job and they like confident people.
5. Learn the 2-3 min presentation on how to cover your skills over the phone or after a handshake so you don't drone on and on and can summarize yourself fast.
6. If your relatively new to resume writing get your resume reviewed from someone you know in the same field or a HR person willing to do it. If your new to interviewing practice answering and anticipating questions. Research the company about to interview you, see what is important to them based on what they say on their Careers page, make sure you mention those points in your interview.
I found my current job in less than two weeks from start to finish using the above.
1. Use the phone as much as possible versus Email. Nothing wrong with calling a HR Department to see if a Internet Posting is filled or not or if it is accurate and your making a contact within the company at the same time. Also, nothing wrong with posting like you did here on Social Media boards asking about jobs. You should also leave your home and attend in person professional groups or associations in your area. So for example, I am in IT. I can attend a local Java Users Group say and give a presentation to the users group of how to do something in Java they never thought of before. There are team leads, architects and hiring managers in those groups and if you impress them they will approach you.
2. As stated by others sometimes companies post positions on the internet when they already have a candidate in mind internally. The internet posting is done for legal reasons so the company can state they searched outside the company.
3. Use headhunters and recruiters. They will find you if you setup a linkedIn profile. There are HR folks on linkedIn that will review your profile for free and give you feedback.....just ask. Make sure you sign-up for linked in groups you are interested in such as your former Marine unit or Marine speciality, Groups that talk about skills you have, etc. Make sure that the headhunters or recruiters do not put you up multiple times for the same position. The good ones will usually ask you where you have applied already.
4. Yes you can respond to internet ads but be judicious about it. Rule of thumb, treat the job search as you would a regular job. Take weekends off and evenings off. Also, if your completely unemployed with nothing to do, use your spare time to volunteer or attend community college to improve your skills. Recruiters and HR loves it when they interview someone that is DOING SOMETHING OTHER THAN SEARCHING FOR A JOB.........it speaks volumes on what kind of person you are and your confidence you will land another job and they like confident people.
5. Learn the 2-3 min presentation on how to cover your skills over the phone or after a handshake so you don't drone on and on and can summarize yourself fast.
6. If your relatively new to resume writing get your resume reviewed from someone you know in the same field or a HR person willing to do it. If your new to interviewing practice answering and anticipating questions. Research the company about to interview you, see what is important to them based on what they say on their Careers page, make sure you mention those points in your interview.
I found my current job in less than two weeks from start to finish using the above.
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Cpl Adam Avitabile
Great feedback! I enjoy it when candidates call in asking if a job is filled, often at times I get the chance to learn more about them and have the opportunity to align them with a job that is a good fit for them. To me, it's all about relationships with folks. I encourage people to use that practice to call in.
Headhunters are great to use, especially if you are in a niche job field. I used a headhunter to land me in my current role which is Talent Acquisition. They only place recruiters into positions around my area. It was a good find for me, and I would recommend this approach to anyone.
Do keep in mind, not all jobs posted online are a complete wash. I would say 95% of the jobs I post online are in need of an external hire. But yes, there are a few out there who will post it to stay compliant. You never know, depends on the organization.
I enjoyed reading your post, cheers!
Headhunters are great to use, especially if you are in a niche job field. I used a headhunter to land me in my current role which is Talent Acquisition. They only place recruiters into positions around my area. It was a good find for me, and I would recommend this approach to anyone.
Do keep in mind, not all jobs posted online are a complete wash. I would say 95% of the jobs I post online are in need of an external hire. But yes, there are a few out there who will post it to stay compliant. You never know, depends on the organization.
I enjoyed reading your post, cheers!
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Here, company's websites whose products I already use and views/goals that align with mine, LinkedIn, USAJobs, Veteranownedbusiness.com.
Where would you recommend one look ?
Where would you recommend one look ?
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Cpl Adam Avitabile
Those are some good resources; I particularly like http://militaryfriendly.com/employers/
This site shows employers who are "committed" to hiring vets. Check out the list!
Indeed and ZipRecruiter are easy to use as well. They are large job boards. This can help you gauge out who is hiring in your area.
This site shows employers who are "committed" to hiring vets. Check out the list!
Indeed and ZipRecruiter are easy to use as well. They are large job boards. This can help you gauge out who is hiring in your area.
Looking For Military Friendly Employers? See Who Made The List
Military Friendly rates companies and employers on how well they recruit and retain military veterans. See which employers made the latest Military Friendly list.
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