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I received 3 different DD214s in the course of my career. I am currently in the Reserve and can still access HRC but the only copies there are the "service-2" copies. What's the big deal about the member copy 4 anyway? A civilian employer is asking for it specifically.
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All Veterans should get registered...
Go to https://www.ebenefits.va.gov/ebenefits-portal/ebenefits.portal
You will need a Premium Account
After you log in.
Click on My Personal Dashboard. (Scroll to bottom of page)
Click on Request Official Military Personnel File (Left-hand Column)
The next page will be DPRIS
Click on (Request Your OMPF Information).
Click ACCEPT on next page. (A Consent Form)
Next page verify your information
Select DD214 and/or any other document you would like of yours.
Submit... Allow at-least 48hrs.
Then when you're ready to retrieve the document/s follow the same steps, but when you get to DPRIS this time you will select
Click on (View Your Retrieved OMPF Information). Here you can view & print.
The document/s will only stay there for 14 days then automatically purge themselves.
If you need help registering for a eBenefits account call ( [login to see] eBenefits Help Desk) and one of our agents will walk you through the process.
DD214 Differences
The Member4 copy has and extra box on the bottom front that is the "Special Edition Information" that states Type of Separation ie Retirement; Character of Service, ie Honorable; Narrative Reason for Separation, ie Sufficient Service for Retirement, a Separation Code, and other info.
Go to https://www.ebenefits.va.gov/ebenefits-portal/ebenefits.portal
You will need a Premium Account
After you log in.
Click on My Personal Dashboard. (Scroll to bottom of page)
Click on Request Official Military Personnel File (Left-hand Column)
The next page will be DPRIS
Click on (Request Your OMPF Information).
Click ACCEPT on next page. (A Consent Form)
Next page verify your information
Select DD214 and/or any other document you would like of yours.
Submit... Allow at-least 48hrs.
Then when you're ready to retrieve the document/s follow the same steps, but when you get to DPRIS this time you will select
Click on (View Your Retrieved OMPF Information). Here you can view & print.
The document/s will only stay there for 14 days then automatically purge themselves.
If you need help registering for a eBenefits account call ( [login to see] eBenefits Help Desk) and one of our agents will walk you through the process.
DD214 Differences
The Member4 copy has and extra box on the bottom front that is the "Special Edition Information" that states Type of Separation ie Retirement; Character of Service, ie Honorable; Narrative Reason for Separation, ie Sufficient Service for Retirement, a Separation Code, and other info.
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CW2 William Butryn
Years ago, I tried to apply as Hotel Manager at The Hotel at Yongsan in Seoul, Korea and was turned down when I only submitted my DD214 Copy 2. At that time didn't even know that there was a DD214 Member 4. Did things change with the issuance of the DD214 since I got out in 1967?
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SGT Aaron Reed
SSgt Albert Williams - I am having the same issue as SSgt Williams - I retired from the Reserves on Dec 1st and the only DD214 I have both in paper form and indocuments in my Personnel File on the HRC website have the extra information but state "Service - 7" on the bottom. I am being told I need a Member 4 copy by USAA in order to execute on a VA Home loan that is supposed to close in the next 3 weeks...any help would be greatly appreciated? Not sure who I can possibly reach out to at this point?
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SGT Aaron Reed
Quick update, I requested a copy through the ebenefits portal which was quick and easy...HOWEVER...the DD214 that I received back from them was again a "Service - 7" copy??
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SPC Steven Murguia
Has anyone figured out why the military hasn't fixed this? Seems like a funny way of hurting soldiers....
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A member-4 copy is the original DD214 you received which includes your type of discharge (honorable, etc.) and re-enlistment code. This is what an employer usually asks for. A "member-1" copy does not have the type of discharge information, in case somebody just wants to validate service but not the details of the discharge.
A "service-2" DD214 is a copy, which as long as it has your full discharge info, it should be fine.
If you want to get a copy of your member-4 for some reason, you should be able to do so here:
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/
A "service-2" DD214 is a copy, which as long as it has your full discharge info, it should be fine.
If you want to get a copy of your member-4 for some reason, you should be able to do so here:
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/
Start Your Military Service Record (DD Form 214) Request
How to Request Military Service Records, Military Personnel Files, Veterans Records, Discharge Papers, Separation Documents, DD214, or Prove Military Service
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SGT Bertrand L Roberson
SFC Teresa Threatts I got the same information. I was just offered a position with the VA and they require the member 4 copy, which I do not have and will never be able to get, so we'll see how things progress from here.
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SGT Aaron Reed
Does anyone know how a "Service - 7" copy relates to a "Member - 4" or "Service - 2"? Is this still a legal copy that should be accepted? I have never heard of this before but it is putting me at risk of losing a deal on a current home purchase and potentially leaving me and my family in a very tough position. I never knew there were multiple DD214's, but this one includes all of the information described in the statements above for a Member - 4 or a Service - 2... I did request a copy through the ebenefits portal but I am guessing they are simply going to retrieve the copy that is on hand in my OMPF which IS the Service - 7 copy???
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Erin Whitney-Roscoe
Can I get my husbands DD214? We are getting a divorce and I need it for education and work benefits. I'm entitled to all my benefits while we are still 'married'. He will not help me.
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We get this all the time. There are eight (8) original DD214s. Member 1 (the short or deleted form) and Member 4 (the long or undeleted form) are offered to the service member at separation. Generally, once they are issued, they are gone forever.
If the service member requires another copy, then he/she can acquire a copy of only one of the other remaining originals, usually a copy of the original maintained by the service branch itself, usually a copy of Service 2, Service 7 or Service 8. Rarely will the service branch keep a Member 4 or Member 1 copy, since they have their own copies. If the service branch has kept that copy, that's the copy you'll get if you request another copy. The copy issued by the service branch will have the full legal force and effect as the original.
All of the eight original DD214s are identical, except for Member 1 - the "short" or "deleted" form. The remaining seven long forms includes another 1.5 inches at the bottom which provides information concerning the service member's characterization of service, narrative reason for separation, legal reference (authority) for separation, separation and re-entry codes. The short form does NOT contain this important information - hence employers want the long form (which are all identical original DD214s EXCEPT for Member 1).
DD214.us
If the service member requires another copy, then he/she can acquire a copy of only one of the other remaining originals, usually a copy of the original maintained by the service branch itself, usually a copy of Service 2, Service 7 or Service 8. Rarely will the service branch keep a Member 4 or Member 1 copy, since they have their own copies. If the service branch has kept that copy, that's the copy you'll get if you request another copy. The copy issued by the service branch will have the full legal force and effect as the original.
All of the eight original DD214s are identical, except for Member 1 - the "short" or "deleted" form. The remaining seven long forms includes another 1.5 inches at the bottom which provides information concerning the service member's characterization of service, narrative reason for separation, legal reference (authority) for separation, separation and re-entry codes. The short form does NOT contain this important information - hence employers want the long form (which are all identical original DD214s EXCEPT for Member 1).
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The only copy of the member 4 is issued to you. The service 2 is the exact same but copies are available through NPRC ( http://www.archives.gov ).
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PO1 (Join to see)
NARA be the answer for any servicemember no matter what time period they served. While OIF/OEF SM's may be able to obtain medical/military records on e-benefits, not all military records have been uploaded.
Default is NARA.
Default is NARA.
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PO3 Jimmy McKinney
I'm buying a home and the mortgage company is asking for a member copy 4 of DD214.
I've been out of service is 1983 and have never had anyone ask for anything but a copy of my DD214 and that has always sufficed. I looked through my military papers and the only thing I received is a one page DD214 and a copy of my Honorable Discharge Certificate. Have no ideal what this is referring to or about. I've gone through the archives to request one, but I doubt they have it. Plus it takes 90 days to receive so I'm basically screwed I suppose... Any recommendations?
I've been out of service is 1983 and have never had anyone ask for anything but a copy of my DD214 and that has always sufficed. I looked through my military papers and the only thing I received is a one page DD214 and a copy of my Honorable Discharge Certificate. Have no ideal what this is referring to or about. I've gone through the archives to request one, but I doubt they have it. Plus it takes 90 days to receive so I'm basically screwed I suppose... Any recommendations?
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A way to receive a copy of your DD 214 is get an eBenefits account. Go to http://www.ebenefits.va.gov and register. Once you have a premium account, click on the "Manage Benefits" tab, and go to the Military Personnel File (DPRIS) link to request a copy of the DD 214
To restart your session, Click here or click the Login button in the top right corner of the Home page and you will be redirected to the DSLogon login page.
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Go through your e-benefits which is VA. I am able to get copies of my DD 214 and any other military or health records. That does not mean obviously that this will be the same thing for other veterans but it is still a good place to start. I have never been to the NARA site so if you could provide the link here that would be great resource to have.
Thanks, Carlos
Thanks, Carlos
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CPT Alex Lamb
The Member-4 is only ever given out once, when you initially discharge. If you lose it or it gets destroyed and you have no other copies that you yourself made, it is gone. Forever.
The VA, through EBenefits will provide you your Service-2 which is a legal replacement for the Member-4 and employers and the VA are legally obliged to accept it as well. This process takes legitimately 10 minutes if you're registered.
The VA, through EBenefits will provide you your Service-2 which is a legal replacement for the Member-4 and employers and the VA are legally obliged to accept it as well. This process takes legitimately 10 minutes if you're registered.
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SPC Steven Murguia
CPT Alex Lamb - They never gave me ANY paperwork at separation-- nor did they collect any of my equipment. This seems like a huge failure of the unit at this point and it's stopped me from getting jobs and potentially buying a house. I served for 9 years... can't get ed benefits, a house, a job, nothing.
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I want dd214 because for armed security guard I'm from Afghanistan civilian new applier
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Member 4 is page 4 of a multi part form (carbonless today) and it will never be as clear of a copy as the Service 2 which is available from eBenifits.
When I re-enlisted I never got a 214 and had a lot of trouble when I got out with the VA not being able to get my benefits because they did not have proof of the earlier enlistment.
Now I have all that and more -- with my records they also sent NA form 13038 Certification of Military Service (to cover the earlier time in service). No more questions about prior service.
When I re-enlisted I never got a 214 and had a lot of trouble when I got out with the VA not being able to get my benefits because they did not have proof of the earlier enlistment.
Now I have all that and more -- with my records they also sent NA form 13038 Certification of Military Service (to cover the earlier time in service). No more questions about prior service.
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