Posted on May 30, 2023
Where is my FEDREC Scroll in the DOD Process?
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I'm not sure what happened to the "unofficial" FEDREC status board that had been periodically updated with scroll status' but it seems to have been retired, missing, or removed. In any case, please feel free to use this new thread to ask questions and post updates to our little '"Promotion Purgatory Support Group". I do not work for NGB so I will not be able to get you answers, but at least we can re-establish the forum.
Best of luck to y'all!
Recommendation from previous comments-
STOP! Please read: If you are here, you want info on how long scrolls are taking or to see the status of your scroll. Help the next person by posting your experience. Once your orders are published, come back and make a new response to the original post with your scroll number, date your FEDREC was sent to NGB and the date your orders published.
If we get more people to post, the data gets more reliable and useful. You can then see if your scroll is an outlier and you can raise a flag with your command.
I'm sure people come by and read these posts without adding to the discord. Join the community and help the next person!
If you agree, VOTE THIS UP so it's one of the first responses people see when they stumble in.
Best of luck to y'all!
Recommendation from previous comments-
STOP! Please read: If you are here, you want info on how long scrolls are taking or to see the status of your scroll. Help the next person by posting your experience. Once your orders are published, come back and make a new response to the original post with your scroll number, date your FEDREC was sent to NGB and the date your orders published.
If we get more people to post, the data gets more reliable and useful. You can then see if your scroll is an outlier and you can raise a flag with your command.
I'm sure people come by and read these posts without adding to the discord. Join the community and help the next person!
If you agree, VOTE THIS UP so it's one of the first responses people see when they stumble in.
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This update requires a separate response: Looks like I made some waves. The BLUF is that NGB is opening an Army Board for Correction of Military Records (ABCMR) case for me. I assume that would affect anyone on my scroll (P25-23) and create precedence if it's a favorable result. This could backdate the date of rank to the date NGB received my FEDREC packet.
Based on my inquiry through my OPM to NGB to backdate my pending date of rank to the date my FEDREC packet was received by NGB per the new USC 10 Chapter 1405 §14308, NGB will create a new Personnel Policy Operational Memorandum (PPOM) to further define what IS the date NGB recognizes the receipt of a FEDREC packet. Is it the date the packet was sent from the state? Is it the date someone gets around to reviewing the documents to see if they are all there and error free? We will see.
This is important since this is how they will continue to determine backdates for all promotions starting 1 JAN 2024. This is still just an option that the Secretary of the Army has for all promotions that occurred in 2023. Since the new law allows the Secretary to backdate all the way to when NGB received the packet, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't. I hesitate in asking others to request an ABCMR for their promotions in 2023. Technically anyone can ask, but I'm not sure the flood gates should be opened until they have more defined policy. It's a long process to change date of rank. I'm told 6 months is typical, so if you start the process, have realistic expectations.
I hope this is good and doesn't blow up in my face. Sorry in advance if this makes things worse. You're welcome for being the first to try. I'll update when I get anything new.
Link to new Promotion chapter in USC 10 1405 §14308:
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title10-section14308&num=0&edition=prelim
Based on my inquiry through my OPM to NGB to backdate my pending date of rank to the date my FEDREC packet was received by NGB per the new USC 10 Chapter 1405 §14308, NGB will create a new Personnel Policy Operational Memorandum (PPOM) to further define what IS the date NGB recognizes the receipt of a FEDREC packet. Is it the date the packet was sent from the state? Is it the date someone gets around to reviewing the documents to see if they are all there and error free? We will see.
This is important since this is how they will continue to determine backdates for all promotions starting 1 JAN 2024. This is still just an option that the Secretary of the Army has for all promotions that occurred in 2023. Since the new law allows the Secretary to backdate all the way to when NGB received the packet, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't. I hesitate in asking others to request an ABCMR for their promotions in 2023. Technically anyone can ask, but I'm not sure the flood gates should be opened until they have more defined policy. It's a long process to change date of rank. I'm told 6 months is typical, so if you start the process, have realistic expectations.
I hope this is good and doesn't blow up in my face. Sorry in advance if this makes things worse. You're welcome for being the first to try. I'll update when I get anything new.
Link to new Promotion chapter in USC 10 1405 §14308:
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title10-section14308&num=0&edition=prelim
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I've read this article before, but forgot it existed until today. This is what started me down the rabbit hole. Apparently, laws are thing everyone is supposed to follow. For those of us who waited over 100 days for the FEDREC process this year, you can ask to back date your promotion to the day NGB received your packet from your state. Next year it should be automatically back dated. This is actually a good thing that the process took so long. It might mean more back pay and earlier TIG.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2023/01/06/new-law-to-reform-guard-officer-promotion-process-federal-recognition/
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2023/01/06/new-law-to-reform-guard-officer-promotion-process-federal-recognition/
New law to reform Guard officer promotion process, federal recognition
Soon Guard officers will receive backpay when their promotions are delayed.
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MAJ (Join to see)
I'm definitely going to file an ABCMR case. I'm on list 41 and my state DOR is 01 Nov 22, almost a year ago. I know they sent the packet up shortly thereafter, but I didn't start scrolling until like June. If it can get me backdated from Oct/Nov (whenever this publishes) back to Feb/Mar, that will be a big deal. The kicker, like you said, is that the law specifies "the date the National Guard Bureau deems such officer's application for Federal recognition to be completely submitted by the State and ready for review at the National Guard Bureau," but NGB has not yet defined what that means.
I bet the more of us that file ABCMRs, the more pressure it will put on them. Maybe I'll even write my congressman, try to get a little pressure that way. Both of my non-automatic promotions (CPT and MAJ) have been absolutely ridiculous and have cost my family tens of thousands of dollars (and counting). I was "promoted" into an O3 slot for a year-long deployment, but didn't see DOR until 5 months after returning home. Missed out on all that tax-free combat pay. This is just stupid.
#peoplefirst!!!!
I bet the more of us that file ABCMRs, the more pressure it will put on them. Maybe I'll even write my congressman, try to get a little pressure that way. Both of my non-automatic promotions (CPT and MAJ) have been absolutely ridiculous and have cost my family tens of thousands of dollars (and counting). I was "promoted" into an O3 slot for a year-long deployment, but didn't see DOR until 5 months after returning home. Missed out on all that tax-free combat pay. This is just stupid.
#peoplefirst!!!!
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MAJ (Join to see) what about it state sent their packet to NGB, NGB lost it in their e-tracker and then had to reset the FEDREC cycle
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For reference, posterity, and maybe just for fun, here is the link to the longest running and most helpful version of this type of post. Not sure why it died and why it was so hard to find, but I had commented on it years ago, so I was able to pull it up from my account history. Let's keep this new thread going. "Where is my FEDREC Scroll..." is easier to google anyway.
Good luck everyone!
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-there-such-a-long-wait-for-reserve-component-officer-and-warrant-federal-recognition-promotion?page=8&urlhash=4111661
Good luck everyone!
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-there-such-a-long-wait-for-reserve-component-officer-and-warrant-federal-recognition-promotion?page=8&urlhash=4111661
Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal...
Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
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FYSA to all the UVPs that went over 100 days last year. The SECARMY has approved back-dating/back-pay as of 12 FEB.
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Anyone have any info on D08-23? "Awaiting HQDA Approval Showing 41 days in the DOD approval cycle, List ID D08-23" as of 12-1-2023. Hoping it will publish before the new year.
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Waiting on this list as well! As of 12/20 showing 64 days in approval cycle. Hopefully some good news soon! D07-23 published in 55 days so hopefully it wont be too much longer.
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Suspended Profile
Awaiting Secretary of Defense Approval; List ID D08-23; 79 Days in DoD Approval cycle as of 4 Jan 2024
Suspended Profile
Published: SO# 12; 2024-01-09. 84 Days on the counter
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Awaiting HQDA Approval; List ID U01-24; 53 Days in DoD Approval cycle
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Awaiting HQDA Approval; List ID U01-24; 62 Days in DoD Approval cycle
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FedRec-Promotion to CW3, CW4 or CW5
Description Published: SO# 411; 2023-12-06
Number of Days 0
Total days on scroll, 62
Description Published: SO# 411; 2023-12-06
Number of Days 0
Total days on scroll, 62
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L06-23 UPDATE
SO# 341 2023-10-11!
Congratulations to everyone, the wait is finally over!
SO# 341 2023-10-11!
Congratulations to everyone, the wait is finally over!
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That's weird. I was on L06-23 and it showed published SO#341......however it has not hit my iPerms yet and its been a little over 2 weeks.
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It might be because my DOR was 23 April 2021 (yes 2021). I had to go through an SRB because of my DOR so that might be why mine already published. I was originally on L04-23 once my state actually got my packet submitted.
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Yeah I feel you on the 2021, DOR was 06 AUG 2021. The rest of the scroll published 07 NOV 2023. Still waiting for them to initiate a PAR. At least I'm looking at around 10-11 months of back pay. Been on a mix of T32 and T10 orders since FEB.
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P46-23 Shows Published: SO# 344; 2023-10-11. Does anyone know how long it usually takes to get orders?
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Depends on your state. Usually takes my state a week from the day it says published.
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Hasn't hit iperms yet, but my S-1 emailed me the NGB 0122E this morning.
P37-23 has returned from FEDREC as of 07 SEP 2023.
My DOR for CPT is 28 AUG 2023. Congrats everyone!
P37-23 has returned from FEDREC as of 07 SEP 2023.
My DOR for CPT is 28 AUG 2023. Congrats everyone!
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It hit my iperms yesterday. G-1 site still shows "at NGB" with 0 days on the counter. S-1 said today was a down day, so perhaps it just hasn't hit yet for you. Hopefully you see it very shortly.
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CPT (Join to see) - Yes mine hit yesterday too. Based on this thread seems like P37 was one of the quicker scrolls. Im officially a CPT
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What are the detailed Federal Recognition Process (O4 promotion) steps? | RallyPoint
Federal Recognition question...I'm an AGR with the National Guard. I was DA Select to O4 last year and finally have a control grade and promotion orders in my state. My FedRec is getting processed and I'm curious about the steps it must pass through. No one here seems to really have a feel for where it's at, let alone how long it could take. Does anyone have a list of the steps each packet goes through? I've seen the common trackers attached...
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CPT (Join to see) I am on the same scroll but my Fedrec orders have yet to hit my IPERMS, have you got yours yet?
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