Posted on Mar 2, 2016
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Anything from blatant mistakes to ribbons out of order is fair game.
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SPC Alexander Brandt
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That collar, though! As much as I love The Flash, I couldn't stop giggling when they brought in the US Army.
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SSG Network Operations Nco
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I don't get what the obsession is with the collar. It looks ridiculous! Why would anyone think we actually wear that up all the time?
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CPT Physical Therapist
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It always itches like hell and reminds me of the turtlenecks my mom loved making us wear as kids.
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SSG Cannon Crew Member
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SSG (Join to see) - i never even wore that shit up under my OTV/IOTV.
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SPC John Parmenter
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The old (1961) movie "Justice at Nuremberg" has a couple scenes which chap my hide. One of the guards is wearing his white M-36 pistol belt up-side-down (you young guys wouldn't know the belt snap button is worn on the LEFT). None of the guards' boots are shined. Another scene has Richard Widmark's officer lapel brass missing & magically reappearing in the next scene.

Nearly all movies show military personnel with long, non-regulation, hair.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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Hurt Locker was awful. As was Last Castle. Pretty much any movie that does not take the time to hire a real military consultant.
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LTC Information Operations (Io) Planner
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I met James Gandolfini (Last Castle) in Kuwait and he called me by my rank and name which surprised me.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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CW4 Anthoney Lowry - At least Top Gun was entertaining....
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CPT Melanie Ryan
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"Battleship" They could NOT have been trying.
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CPO Juan R
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I work in the entertainment industry and most of these shows have "real" military advisors. The problem is that reality gets in the way of movie making and directors sometime just don't care about the reality because it does not look good on camera and they are making these movies for mom and pop...not AD or veterans.
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LTC Chemical, Biological, Radiological & Nuclear Officer
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I worked in Hollywood as a military tech advisor and casting director for a number of years. The main reason they screw up the uniforms and other details is... they just don't care. Most of the time the production staff assumes that no one will notice. Remember that very few Hollywood folks have actually served in the military (with the exception of a blessed few) so they are basing a lot their work on assumptions.
You also have to keep in mind that a military technical advisor is mostly considered a reference and does not carry a lot of weight on a film set. Yes, you have the knowledge and experience, but it's not like they are ever going to let you completely shut down a production because "they got the uniforms wrong" or because "the lead actor needs a haircut."
Many shows have limited budgets and either can't afford to hire a tech advisor, or they can't afford to get decent uniforms or props. Every set is different. Sometimes the production team is very receptive and appreciative, other times you're just a walking reminder of how much they suck and they avoid you.
The bottom line...? Just be thankful for the things they get right! It can always be worse, I can just imagine what real medical doctors think of hospital shows, and real CSI agents think about crime shows. Hollywood is playing for the mass audience and not the subject matter experts.
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SGT Writer
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Great insight. It's sad when someone knows they suck so much that they avoid those who want to help them unsuck.
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MSG Mechanic 2nd
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agree sir, but back in the day john wayne days those movies were good,the new stuff well idk, black hawk down maybe, because i have a friend whos brother and brother in law served were there and servived
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SGT Sam Simmons
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Absolutely, sir. It's sometimes frustrating how little civilians know or care about military life, or how ignorant of their ignorance they are, but it's unfair to expect them to have the same level of knowledge and attention to detail a service member or veteran would have drilled into them while in uniform.
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Lt Col Aerospace Planner
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I also did some tech advising and also worked in the camera dept as a card carrying IA Local 600 ICG member. I can attest to my experience doing "Good Kill." I found out a couple things which makes some errors now make more sense. Like you said, we are tech advisers and not a director. I all I could do was advise them. I know the costumers were getting frustrated with me. I guess we take for granted that we know how to do this and they don't. The one problem I encountered was if it was a shirt, trousers, skirt, or the flight suit, it was considered a costume. If it was velcro patches, ribbons and badges like wings, those considered props for some reason. It was prop master who had the job to physically attach the insignia's on the uniform parts. I managed to catch everything except one screw up, luckily I was able to fix it before it became too noticeable. The prop guy put the main character's Major insignia on the wrong side of his flight cap (Garrison cap). Luckily the only time it may have been in a shot would have been when the cap was tucked into his lower right ankle pocket. It was determined most likely it would not screw up shot continuity to fix it.

The other errors were intentional on our feature. All of the unit patches on the flight suits were made up or modified from real unit patches. That was because clearances did not wan't to get in trouble for depicting prior art without permission. You know that its completely acceptable for a military patch to be filmed as the design was done by a USGOV employee. There is one exception, that is if a unit patch is using someone else's IP in the design. For example there is a Navy fighter squadron that uses Felix the cat holding a bomb. There is an Air Force Squadron that has Wylie the Coyote on it. In those cases, the artwork of the character still is owned by whoever has the rights to it. That was her justification for not using official patches. She did not want to inadvertently use something someone else outside the military may have done.
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