Posted on Apr 3, 2018
Sam Sylvester
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I am in the process if applying to OCS, after a few years in my branch, I would like to apply to IPAP program. I am wondering if I should go active or go reserve, to take a few more science classes and get more direct patient care hours. I already have a degree in Biology so I meet the pre reqs for Ipap already, just need to retake the SAT. I understand if I went reserve I might have time to take more high level courses like Organic Chem 2/biochem. Was wondering which would be the better path, active or reserve?
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COL Deputy G2
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So what’s the real issue? If you go OCS then you get branched needs of the Army. It won’t be any easier to do IPAP. After doing s few years in whatever branch how competitive do you think your direct patient hours will be? I would say not as competitive as those in the medical field branches. And it don’t mean medical service Corp. Is it you don’t want to pay for the school yourself or that you can’t get in a program as a civilian. Your best bet if you really want to join something is Reserves because active duty your taking your chances to not get selected and then your stuck with whatever branch. You best bet is to direct commission into PA.
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Sam Sylvester
Sam Sylvester
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I am skeptical about the civilian programs because many are requiring around 1000-2000 direct patient care hours. Compared to IPAP, where I just need to take the SAT again to apply. As for reserves vs active, I am having trouble deciding whether I should be a part time soldier to take more courses or just go active and then apply to IPAP after 2 years or so.
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Sam Sylvester
Sam Sylvester
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Also I do understand that IPAP is extremely competitive, However i can still apply multiple times, and active have more seats during each cycle
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If you think, after doing your research, that going the IPAP route would be the best course of action for your specific situation then I, like would recommend, like the others, to do it while on active duty. Good luck.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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OK, elaborate...what GPA? Also, which SVC as PA, all svcs have them, incl USCG, I gather you want Army, try to not limit yourself in that regard, it's not which one you want, it'# which one wants you. I've been all through virtually everything done clinically, I was doctoral level allied health before my disability, I trained with masters levelmPA students, so believe me, I've taken it all, passed it all, I assure you, other than some OB/GYN, PEDs, and some more anesthesiology. We shut my license sevl yrs ago as I'm total perm disabled, however, I can show you a good deal. Look at USPHS COSTEP, the USPHS analogue to ROTC, dont just think of the other typical five svcs, trust me, look it up, you'll see why I suggest it. Further, are you EMT? Paramedic? Have you done any hospital volunteering at all? I gather you've done half of organoc, not the other half, tell !e exactly wpyour science coursework, embryology, comparative anatomy, genetics, have you done any cell bio? Molecular bio? Find a school by you giving gross anatomy over a summer program and try to go, with full cadaver dissection. Also, histology is quite different from gross, the technique for learning it differs, I had to do gross twice to get it, same for path and oharm, I know all the review texts used. Get the Williams and Wilkins review texts called the Board Review Series (BRS), and the Natl Med Series (NMS), get the Lippincott blue soft cover biochem text, and the red soft cover pharm text, all clinical programs use them, all, doesn't matter the field, or level, all of them. If where you are has nursing anatomy, ask to take it as an elective, also, I'm assuming you'd do a masters level PA, undergrad PAs are nearly the way of the dodo. Further, if you can go nurse practitioner (NP), you'd be better off, for numerous reasons. If you want PA, fine, however, NPs get their own licenses and can hang shingles independently, and dont have to be supervised and signed off like PAs do, PAs get only limited licenses, now, if you want PA as I'd said, fine, howeve, also, specifically tell me, if you can, elaborate, what specific subfield as PA would you want? Internal med? OR? Psych? Derm? What specific field would you want, ifmyou have any preference now? Also, if youre not EMT or AEMT or paramedicz try to go for it, doing that would give you some more realistic perspective, OK? Elaborate, I'll try to help with more so far as I can, OK?
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Capt Daniel Goodman
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Believe me, young Paduwam, trust Yoda, Yoda sees all, knows all, tells all...Upda lmpws the ways of the Force, promise, young Luke....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Capt Daniel Goodman
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Think of!e as your personal crystal ball, young Paduwan...your personal Oracle at Delphi, you know? Like I said, I've taken it all, seen it all, passed it all, that muchz I assure you,mosmthe truthz and no, I'm not exaggerating honest, OK? Trust Yoda....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Capt Daniel Goodman
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Ohz ueaj, I fogot, you wanted PA, not med...trust me, same thing, different flovor, young Padiwan....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Capt Daniel Goodman
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Sorry for typos...
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If you have a Bachelors in Biology with a decent GPA, I recommend trying a direct commission instead of OCS. It takes some time, but once you’re in, you’re in.
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Sam Sylvester
Sam Sylvester
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Wanted to go to OCS to experience some of the other branches besides medicine before i applied
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TSgt David Holman
TSgt David Holman
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If you want to experience other branches, consider "shadowing" a PA in different fields/branches. It would show you more of what their day to day operations were, and would give you the opportunity for frank feedback about their quality of life.
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