Posted on Aug 10, 2014
Who do you think is responsible for our failure in Iraq?
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Strategically, who do you think the blame falls with? Is it Paul Bremer, GWB, or do you blame some of the senior leaders for screwing OIF up?
Not trying start a debate here, but it's obvious that this war was mishandled and strategically screwed up ... and if you need proof, just look at what ISIS is doing.
Thoughts?
Not trying start a debate here, but it's obvious that this war was mishandled and strategically screwed up ... and if you need proof, just look at what ISIS is doing.
Thoughts?
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Sadaam & his sons had to go. Part of the planning stage for Iraq our biggest fear was Iran invading & taking over. We never foresaw ISIS or that type of group as the threat. We could easily blame Bush & Cheney but other sources fueled the intelligence that made them think about the WMDs being there. Ahmed Chalabi was considered the Iraqi govt in exile in London & his family members fed us plenty of false human intelligence. When I got to Iraq, we heard plenty of buzz that Chalabi set all of this up. He is a mobster & used a bigger mobster (the US military) to get rid of his competition (Sadaam). When Al Qaeda in Iraq first appeared in Fallujah in 2004, we were seeing Iraqi (nationalists) insurgents fighting the religious whackos. Fast forward a number of years. When Obama decided to pull our troops out, Iraq was pretty stable. The PM of Iraq said it was time for us to pull out. Granted, Obama didn't ask about a status of forces agreement but we all know he sucks at foreign affairs. Every person has their weaknesses. We pulled out. Things were fine. Iraq had a standing Army large enough & trained well enough to fight ISIS. We succeeded with our mission in Iraq. That chapter is over. What caused this fiasco? Iraqi govt corruption & a cowardly military. It's harsh but it's right. A few hundred ISIS fighter show up & tell thousands of Iraq troops who are dug in to drop their weapons & surrender & they do, that's sheer cowardice. The Iraqi will keep losing until they grow a pair to fight on their own. The Iraqis have failed. We can't hold their hands forever.
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Sgt Mike Boland
The Obama administration has some blame because President Bush's administration and military members on the ground in Iraq recommended leaving US forces on the ground. Obama was more concerned with his political promises then maintaining security in Iraq. I fully believe it was Obama's lack of experience and arrogance by not listening to his military advisers.
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We did not fail in Iraq. The Iraqi forces failed themselves and the Iraqi government failed it's people.
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SN Earl Robinson
George Bush for taking us there to begin with! Iraq was a toothless and declawed tiger. The only danger Saddam represented was to his own people and radicals like those in Al Qeada and ISIS.
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I was in Iraq #1. Without over analysis, what has Iraq itself done to govern itself? It has broken up into factions with warlords,, tribal battles, nothing resembling a centralized government and the expecation of those in government that they WILL get bribes and kickbacks from the locals etc.
T.E. Lawrence: So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are. Lawrence of Arabia
T.E. Lawrence: So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are. Lawrence of Arabia
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Everything we have accomplished, all of the lives lost in Iraq, are now equal to nothing if our leadership does not take a firm stand and destroy this bitter enemy
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Our illustrious president Barack Hussian Obama bin Ladin blew them off a year ago! Did he know something than that we didn't? He's a lame dick president so he doesn't have to worry about re-election, he has a middle eastern name, AND HE IS A TRADER!
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All of the above...and do not forget Congress and everyone in Politics... It was about the defense industry.
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Obama blew them off as nothing, now, are you blind, it is inevitable that many many more of our brave young soldiers are going to die in that shithole!
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Obama I think only those who have served should hold position to control the outcomes of the sacrifices of those serving. Wars and liberation are not politics it is real life for those affected by your decision. We have let the Iraq people down twice now. They have suffered enough he'll we went to Afghanistan first and we are still there training but we can't even put spotters on the ground in Iraq. Shame on the Obama administration and all those that allow his tyranny to reign over our military leaders. Sad Sad Sad.
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Iraq is responsible. It's their country, if the people are not willing to fight for their freedom, then there is no point in spilling our blood to fight their war.
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