Posted on Jun 14, 2015
CH (MAJ) William Beaver
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As a Cavalryman for life, I am fond of the Fiddlers Green poem. I can appreciate it. It is unique. But some have mentioned to me it is offensive to other non-cavalrymen and that it encourages suicide. I disagree. Is it offensive to you?
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SPC Christian Ziegler
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Well anybody that finds this offensive and is in the Cav can just turn in there Crossed Sabers and there Man card on the way out the door. Any one that has spent time around the Cav knows its a brother hood with long traditions. Some are easy some are tuff but a Trooper worth his damn salt would never find Fiddlers Green offensive. We had 11C do the spur ride, even some radio repair guys, mechanic's, Duck Hunter's, Arty, hell even chopper pilot's, everyone had a great time cause they where all Cav. Fiddlers Green was something that was there's too because they where Cav it does not matter what your MOS is if your in a CAV unit and you get that CAV mentality and that CAV heart you will always be CAV.

Makes me wonder if those personal just could not cut it on the spur ride, and had to find something to cry about. Seeing as this country is over run with PC bull why not try it out on Fiddlers Green. I say next time they complain ask them if they want to fill out a 4187 to go to 19D school and become CAV Scouts. Scouts Out
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SGT David Emme
SGT David Emme
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I just think whoever is offended is just jealous.

I was a Supply Sgt in a RSTA in the second Stryker Brigade yo do transformation.

It was a tough SOB to do but yes, earned my spurs on the last spur ride before deploying to Iraq...even re-enlisted at our Spur Ride dinner out in the field. Definetly embraced the Cavalry tradition.

I was told that some re-enlisted because of this.

I was wounded by an IED-penetrating head wound. Was in a Stryker on the way back to the FOB. Heard the whining of the door coming down and everyone shouted for me to sit down and wait for the liter team to grab me.

What did I say?

“F You. I earned my spurs. Ain’t no one ever carried my ass since I have been in this unit, not about ready to start.”

I took three or four steps and that is the last I remembered until I woke up in a chopper flying to FOB Marez in Mosul.

Apparently, I continued to refuse to be carried and asked one of our medics-where the hell us sick bay?

A good time to be had by all. Well except for me and my driver. We did not have a very good time that day.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
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maybe in the context of the time period in which it was written it might of been in a different context then now.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
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People whom I do not chose to associate with for $500?
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CPT Senior Instructor
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Is this a real discussion? I am a bit lost at the point of it.
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1LT William Clardy
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CPT (Join to see), the Cav has as unique a way of thinking as second lieutenants do of saluting...
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CPT Senior Instructor
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1LT William Clardy - You're right. Some things I just don't want to understand some times.
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MAJ David Hall
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Thanks for the flashbacks...
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SSG Lon Watson
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Edited >1 y ago
I got 5 and half years on jump status and 7 years in the CAV, 2ACR and 11TH ACR (OPFOR). I got my spurs in 2 ACR. It was the roughest day I ever spent in the army. Smoked doesn't begin to cover it.
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SPC James Ward
SPC James Ward
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Go 2nd ACR! Toujours Pret!
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SGT Wilson Dickey
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Not offended....don't see why others would be, but that is society now. As an aside, as an infantryman it is perfectly understood why the cav would have to stop. You guys may not be able to make it all the way through to hell. That's a long march!
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SPC David S.
SPC David S.
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Beside it being an open bar its a long march for you and a short ride for us - getty up!
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SGT Wilson Dickey
SGT Wilson Dickey
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Not gonna lie. There were a few times I feel a horse, or track would've been nice.
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SGT Nathan Huff
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if you aint Cav you Aint S.......

we all have marching songs and sayings that can be offensive to others. Honestly has a Scout I loved that song. It sounds like some one is envious of our history.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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Personally I think all POACMS are offensive.
But I have never found a poem to be offensive.
Now "GaryOwen" ... that's another thing.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SSG Roger Ayscue
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NO NO NO....Garryowen...It is a song, the official march of the 7th Cav
Gary Owens was the announcer for the Gong Show, and Gary Owen is an HBO Comic.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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Sorry - I took the space out .. but I have seen examples with the cap "O".
Anyway ... causes Airborne troopies to back-snort beer ... bad juju.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKI4GQ4c9g0
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