Posted on Apr 4, 2018
Why aren't military/veterans the first to advocate for mental health screenings for gun ownership?
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And here's why I say that: what's the first thing we do when we identify a soldier as a mental health hazard? *TAKE THEIR WEAPON AWAY.*
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Just because that's what the military does don't mean it's the right thing to do. For example NCO's can no longer smoke a solider for doing wrong which takes away tools for recourse. Now you either have to forget about it or put it on paper most soldiers don't earn from the "paperwork" option. The Army also gave out stress cards to privates in training environments! Isn't that the whole purpose of basic training to make them learn and Excel under stress. And they wonder why so many failed under the pressure of deployment and combat! If someone receives a PTSD no matter the severity the also received a no weapons profile that's not right most that show symptoms of PTSD are still more competent and safer with weapons than most military members with less than 3 year's in.
Also I don't care how much school you went to and how many letters you have before your name you don't have the right to take my Rights away. If we were willing to fight and die for others right's what do you think we are willing to do for our own!
Also I don't care how much school you went to and how many letters you have before your name you don't have the right to take my Rights away. If we were willing to fight and die for others right's what do you think we are willing to do for our own!
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Are you talking about initial "mental health screening" for "all" or are you speaking of applicants with a documented condition of which those records would be unattainable under the "doctor patient" confidentially clause?
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Wow!! If the current laws on the books now were enforced, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. My rights under the 2A shouldn’t be infringed upon simply because a ‘government entity’ failed to do their job.
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Because Constitutional Rights do not have "qualifications" to be able to exercise them. If they did I would advocate for an intelligence test for free speech. ;)
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You are begging people like Feinstein, and many other Liberals to take your second amendment rights away? I hope you are joking. Liberals have disgraced Veterans many times and have put out the thought of demanding mental health screenings of Veterans to protect Americans from armed Veterans. If you want this you are telling the veterans to give up their second amendment rights, then the rest of our Constitutional rights Once you loose your second amendment rights you are granting the government the power to take everyone's' rights away. Fact check what I say and what the media and liberal politicians have proposed, to control the population here in the U.S. Read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Book stores sell pocket size copies of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I hope you will educate yourself as to why the second amendment is the glue that holds this country together.
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Until the laws that are already on the books are enforced, there is an issue with making new ones. Start with what is already there. There are too many laws that don't get enforced, are opened to interpretation and usually unfairly applied to minority groups when they are. Leaving the US open to more racial divide than what is currently happening. We as veterans need to lead the charge in reuniting America to the one we all fought for and believe in.
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201602/study-half-all-presidents-suffered-mental-illness
Q: At what point will congress take that authority from the president for the release of nuclear weapons? A: it takes the VP and 13 cabinet members to remove the president, and congress has 21 days to uphold that or it goes back to him. Think about that for a moment. Now define all the different forms of mental health. Does that mean every gun owner has to go through some form of scrutiny? So if a rape victim seeks treatment for PTSD they should have to surrender their firearms?
Why don't we do the same thing for motor vehicle owners? Archery enthusiasts? Britain is seeking to ban butcher cutlery as it is the new weapon of choice for homicidal maniacs. We should ban those two right? I got news for you, do you relize that medical malpractice will kill between 250,000-400,000 annually? There is only 1,000,000 registered physicians in the US. That means statistically every one of them kills someone every 2.5 to 4 years. Where is your outcry for that? Influenza will kill 40,000-100,000 annually. Where is the outcry for better vaccines and mandate that everyone has to get vaccinated?
Q: At what point will congress take that authority from the president for the release of nuclear weapons? A: it takes the VP and 13 cabinet members to remove the president, and congress has 21 days to uphold that or it goes back to him. Think about that for a moment. Now define all the different forms of mental health. Does that mean every gun owner has to go through some form of scrutiny? So if a rape victim seeks treatment for PTSD they should have to surrender their firearms?
Why don't we do the same thing for motor vehicle owners? Archery enthusiasts? Britain is seeking to ban butcher cutlery as it is the new weapon of choice for homicidal maniacs. We should ban those two right? I got news for you, do you relize that medical malpractice will kill between 250,000-400,000 annually? There is only 1,000,000 registered physicians in the US. That means statistically every one of them kills someone every 2.5 to 4 years. Where is your outcry for that? Influenza will kill 40,000-100,000 annually. Where is the outcry for better vaccines and mandate that everyone has to get vaccinated?
Study: Half of All Presidents Suffered from Mental Illness
Research to consider when evaluating this year's field of candidates.
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2nd Amendment reads - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."
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Most "mental health screenings" are far too ambiguous and left to the opinion of the examiner in my opinion. If you are "depressed" but not a threat to yourself or others some might argue that you actually ARE and use that as an opportunity to strip you of your rights. And because they spent time in school to get a piece of paper they now have the power to take away your rights...?? In my mind this is a slippery slope to akin to the idea that we should imprison someone, not because of the crime, but because we believe they may commit the crime.
I can understand the fear of "what if" but also believe in what Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
In returning to the original question, I would say that because of my military service I've been exposed to more politics than the average citizen, and seen far more wagging the dog than most know about and than others would admit exists. When chaos ensues, take a pause and half step back... Perspective changes everything.
I can understand the fear of "what if" but also believe in what Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
In returning to the original question, I would say that because of my military service I've been exposed to more politics than the average citizen, and seen far more wagging the dog than most know about and than others would admit exists. When chaos ensues, take a pause and half step back... Perspective changes everything.
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