Posted on May 22, 2015
SFC Joseph James
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After seeing the deaths of the biker shootout in Waco Texas I have noticed a lot of articles and media attention on how many of these bikers are former military. One was a Vietnam Veteran that received the Purple Heart. I was wondering what causes a Veteran to want to join up with actual "Outlaw" Biker gangs? Is it the thrill of adventure the calls them or what? Please answer in the comments.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/22/atf-report-warned-military-government-membership-outlaw-motorcycle-gangs/
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Edited 9 y ago
1%er clubs were started by guys returning from WW2 that got disillusioned with the world. Incidentally, the only "Outlaw" club is the Outlaws. The others prefer to be called 1%ers.
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RJ (Robert) Kirschner, MBA
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Good question: Sometimes people gravitate to "Outlaw" Biker Gangs or just Gangs in general because of a void in their "Family" life and a need for approval. The Outlaw or criminal aspect speaks to their character, or lack of it.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Tribalism runs deep in the human DNA and finds genetic expression in countless ways. Many are attracted to strength of numbers (pack mentality) and the anonymity which comes from wearing clothing that paradoxically rewards the belonging to a pack/gang/group.
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SSG Eric Eck
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Same reason Leavenworth does.
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SGT Rick Ash
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The majority of these individuals want to reconnect with their military friends and as the article states, MANY former Vets join these "Outlaw" biker gangs. This way, they get the best of both worlds.
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SP5 Joel McDargh
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As a veteran who had become a member of an MC I saw it as a place to fit in and belong without being condemned or questioned about my military service. I was treated with more respect there than I received from our government, community, friends, and family. Though I no longer belong I still have many friends in the MC community and garner much respect from them as I do in return. They are my "other band of brothers".
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SSG Paul Ellis
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I think they're filling the void in their lives after they left the military. You get used to a certain camaraderie that you just don't find in civilian life. They probably feel a sense of belonging in the biker gang and experience a certain sense of order reminiscent of military life.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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Because many Veterans can not understand civilians and how stab-in-the-back that civies can be, they find in the Bike Clubs the brotherhood and camaraderie that they had in the military.

I am not a biker, but I know a bunch and this is what they say. The terms are the same. Brothers, Family, Trust.

How many civilians can honestly say that they have Brothers at their jobs? That they look at co-workers as family...Let me answer for you...NONE. Vets are not comfortable in a stab-in-the-back society, yet we live in one...SAD...but all too true.
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SFC Joseph James
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Yep, that's why they are not a "gang"! Thanks for the comment!
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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BACA does GREAT things for abused kids.
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My question is why were their crimes labeled as organized crime? The ones in Texas were gangs aka THUGS.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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Actually if you look at the actual agenda for that meeting you will see that the COC&I isn't "thugs" it was simply a fight between two rival clubs. Both of which have been labeled OMGs.
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