Why do people insist on putting (P) beside their rank? Last I checked, Promotable is NOT a rank and only means you made the list.

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SFC Michael Hasbun

Edited 12 y ago

Posted 12 y ago

Rallypoint asks you if you're promotable. If you click yes, it automatically places the P next to your rank.

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SGT Jason Chapell

12 y

I'm talking soldiers/officers in general. on top of that, you would think the creators of different sites would understand it is not a rank as well.

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Posted 11 y ago

It's tacky. Unless you're a NCO filling a more senior leadership role, or you're an officer filling a command or primary staff position that you don't currently rate for, you shouldn't do it. Besides, everyone knows what you call a Captain promotable...Captain.

MAJ (Join to see)

10 y

I agree Sir, especially in the active duty O2 community. You will get promoted unless you are the ultimate dirt bag, end of story. In the Guard its a bit different, but a (P) isn't necessarily going to garner anymore/ less respect.

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MSG (Join to see)

Posted 11 y ago

In my younger SPC years, I once had a SPC(P) tell me to stand at parade rest when addressing him. I snickered and walked away. He wasn't in a leadership position, just had the recommendation and waiting for numbers to hit. But he tried and tried to get people to stand at parade rest, stating that he outranked us other SPC's.

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Posted >1 y ago

There is a block on the NCO Evaluation Report Form for the (P).

I can see that it doesn't make much difference at the Segeant and Staff Sergeant level these days, since most Soldiers are only "promotable" for a brief period of time. But back in the 90's when folks were promotable for years (I was a Corporal(P) for a year and a half; points stayed out of reach), it could make a difference when deciding who would be in charge. Who would you put in charge the Sergeant or the Sergeant (P)?

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PO1 (Join to see)

Posted 12 y ago

I honestly did not know what the (P) meant, however I did assume that it meant promotable. I do not see why one would do that. If you are a Sgt, put Sgt. If you made SSgt, congratulations, put it on, you earned it. It does not matter if you are up for it, otherwise I would have written MM3(P) on my titles for the last 2 years. 

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MSG Cameron Davis

Posted 12 y ago

The (P) status does bump you into the next ranks assignments branch manager and subsequently puts you in that ranks positions. For example, a SFC(P) can be slotted in a first sergeant slot (then frocked) or simply a MSG - say Operation slot. Additionally, it also adjusts your RCP. This really has nothing to do with using the (P) or not but does indicate moving up. I used the (P) but more so, my CoC used it when writing me.

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TSgt Kerry Hardy

Posted 12 y ago

I completely agree with SGT Chapell. Being in USAF we have "selectee" as our false rank. A TSgt selectee is a SSgt, and a Maj selectee is a Captain! So telling me what you are about to be doesn't impress me. Glad you made it but until it is on your sleeve or collar you are not that rank! Be proud of your current rank and be best at that and carry that into the next. <br>

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I don't think you are defining promotable like we are. I think that's where there is miscommunication. You are using it as if a person has potential for promotion. Promotable in the army is that the board has already selected them. The list is confirmed by the appropriate agencies and those that are now promotable and those not promotable are notified. I do see what you are saying, and army guys would word that as having promotion potential.

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TSgt Kerry Hardy

>1 y

I have defined it correctly. Same as USAF selectee has been notified with a line number for promotion to next rank. TSgt selectee is a SSgt that will be promoted sometime within 12 months depending on line number. Higher the number the longer the wait. Which same just like your (P) which means not promoted to next rank until that get orders. When I was active anyone that would use that like a rank I would shut them down fast. They are no better that those that didn't get line number. Just trying to make those that didn't feel inferior. You are what rank your ID say your are. Until you get officially promoted a (P), selectee is just making you feel better than others over your rank. As for frocking, you are still not that rank but will to do the work without the pay.

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SFC (Join to see)

10 y

It's not the same TSgt, A SGT(P) is a SGT selected for SSG not a SPC selected for SGT. So there is some difference between Army Promotable and Air Force Selectee

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TSgt Kerry Hardy

10 y

SPC(P) Brandon Buchanan - It is the same. I SSgt selectee is an E-5 selected for E-6 TSgt just like a Sgt(P) is E-5 selected for SSG E-6.....

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SSgt Gregory Guina

Posted 12 y ago

I just want to know what it means exactly.<br>

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SGT Bryon Sergent

12 y

Well when in the army and youhave all the required time in service and time in grade you come up for promotion. At that time the board evaluates you records, college, correspondece coarses, wpn's qual, pt and ect. ect. then gives you a score. That is when you are put on the promotion list! once on the list you are promoted buy who is top in points. there are alot of other factors also. are you flagged hieght & weight, are flagged on PT, have you had NJP's stuff like that. or if the number one turns it down because he doesn't want to go to the unit that has the opening.

I have it good and bad. We are the only company of MP's in the State of AR so it takes someone getting out or promoted to get the slot. I'm @nd on the list but the first one is flagged so goes to me.

Did this help SSG Guina. I know the Corp is different.

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SSgt Gregory Guina

12 y

OK think I got it

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COL (Join to see)

Posted 6 y ago

That's correct! The only proper use of the (P) indicator is on an official evaluation report and/or a very limited number of other official doc's in which the promotable person is actually serving / being rated in the next higher grade.

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MSG (Join to see)

Posted >1 y ago

AR 25-50 will provide the answers you seek.

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Why do people insist on putting (P) beside their rank? Last I checked, Promotable is NOT a rank and only means you made the list.

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