Posted on Mar 12, 2014
SGT Jason Chapell
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Why does this bother you so much?
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SGM Matthew Quick
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SSG Burns,

There have been a few already...HRC will find them a new job and they may probably get QMPed during the next board.
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SGM Matthew Quick
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I know of one personally...they had over 20 years.

QSP doesn't necessarily look at NCOES failures; that's the QMP board.  They COULD get caught up in the QSP process for promotion stagnation/time in grade.
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SGT James George
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we are all 'promotable' ,, if your not, you should think about going back to the block. and not to mention, making the list and getting selected are two different things. if you dont get selected, then you 'lose' the 'P' status? come on,, its a self bragging thing..
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MSG Mike Fitzpatrick
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SGT James George - It does mean you've been selected for promotion, which is the same thing as "making the list." As a SGT, you should know this.
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SFC Aaron G.
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I think that on a site such as this where you are able to add the (P) next to your rank, it's a way to show a sense of accomplishment. I know how hard it was to gain that promotable status.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Plus, in a place where you are able to network with other soldiers and view other units, it's a way to find a place that is looking for someone in the next higher rank. For a while, I was on the list to be promoted, but did not have a slot to fill until recently. This site helps you find a unit that is close (for those in the reserve) where you may be able to promote in to.</div>
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SFC S1 Personnel Ncoic
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I am quite proud of my (P). &nbsp;There were less than 2% in my MOS that were selected this year. &nbsp;I don't use it on my work emails or anywhere else, just here. &nbsp;
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MSG Cameron Davis
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And I was very proud of mine as well.
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SSG(P) Intelligence Analyst
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Me too!!
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CSM Spp Ncoic
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I got mine and now I don't have it.  it paid off


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SPC Matthew Nielsen
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I don't see the issue with the (P) either. It is what it is. Try getting selected and find a slot in an armor unit as a M1A2 gunner kind of tough to find. I was injured at Hood and the Army retired me. I was SPC(P) when they cut my orders for TDRL, and I left as a SPC. I don't put SGT even though I had a P. the original poster made it sound as if it was near stolen valor thing, or that it is laughable. The (P) is going away for E-6 and above this year, but it certainly seems to be a good way for units to know who is ready and qualified to be promoted so they don't pull a private when they need a SGT.
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Why do people insist on putting (P) beside their rank? Last I checked, Promotable is NOT a rank and only means you made the list.
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<p>When you become Promotable, you will understand the sense of accomplishment that comes with being recommended for the next rank.&nbsp; </p><p><br></p><p>I do not use the (P) after my rank outside of this website, but I have a great deal of pride in myself that I have been recognized by my leadership as a leader capable of doing bigger and better things on down the road.</p><p><br></p><p>In the meantime, do not rain on other peoples' parades.</p>
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LTC Joseph Gross
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A long time ago, I read in a regulation that the only proper use of the (P) in the Army is following COL and General Officer ranks. I've never cared about the point and don't know if that is still correct but it was at one time. I also understand that in some MOSs you will remain a (P) forever so it matters to the individual.&nbsp;
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SFC Information Technology Specialist
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Agreeing with a lot of comments that were already made on here. I'm not sure what Battle Chappell is so upset for, however I think LTC Gross makes a good point. That concept is still used today amongst office ranks. Example what is displayed across most divisional staffs is one Div CDR with two assistants. Only one of those assts will be a brig gen and the other will be a col/p to recognize that position.
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TSgt Hh 60 G Maintainer
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LTC Gross:<br><br>The issue of (P) being ONLY for LTC and COL has been explained in this discussion.&nbsp; The regulation only uses those ranks as an EXAMPLE.&nbsp; Anyone promotable of any rank can use it when it has some type of substantial meaning (ie, frocking, etc.) and is in the best interest of the Army.&nbsp;
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MSG Assistant Inspector General
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AR 600-8-19, 7-37 & 7-37d. Soldiers in the selection objective, even though assigned but not yet promoted, are considered “promotable” while on the list, but will not use the letter (P) in correspondence or other documents unless specifically authorized or
required in AR 25–50; or another Army policy directive.
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This is out of AR 25-50, 6-5, Do not use the “(P)” (meaning the signer is promotable) as part of a signature block in Army correspondence unless it benefits or enhances the image of the Army. However, it may be used in an address for such things as congratulatory notes.

As this is not an Army correspondence I would venture to say it does not apply here on RP. IMHO that is

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SPC Jeremy Owens
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I think its to denote that you did make the list; especially in job related issues, I could be desiring a SSG(P) over a SSG.  




Now, how to verify and all that is a somewhat different issue.  
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LTC Stephen B.
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You are not authorized the (P) by regulation unless you are IN the next higher position, which generally means the job-related issue was resolved in that individual's favor giving him/her the higher position.
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MSG Martinis Butler
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To separate themselves from their peers. The "P" beside your rank should be a big deal its something to be proud of. A sense of accomplishment and you would like for people to know that you have accomplished something that everyone hasn't done. Its no different than putting Sr. or Jr behind your name sure you can use you social to identify the individual but having that little identifier to separate you makes one feel good in which they should. Although its a status I think we should embrace it and be proud of those individuals. Congrats to all the Promotables out there in every branch!
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SSG Cbrn Nco
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I don't understand why it's so upsetting for you.
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1SG Frank Rocha
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Edited >1 y ago
The (P) doesn't denote rank, it denotes status. The status in question is that the Soldier associated with the promotable status has been selected for promotion and placed on a list awaiting their sequence number (or their points for their grade and MOS to be at or below their respective promotion point number) in order to be officially promoted. Regardless of any promotable status any Soldier with a promotable status would still receive the same customs and courtesies afforded a Soldier without it. <br><br>Additionally, only the Active Army has a promotable status. The Army National Guard has no such status.<br>
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1SG Frank Rocha
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LTC Stephen B. - On your first point sir, correct. The ARNG has AGR Soldiers and title 10 Soldiers this applied to. However, Since I made my comment 2 years ago, policy has changed to a broader application.
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LTC Stephen B.
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1SG Frank Rocha - I hadn't noticed that this thread was that old. One of the more annoying things about RallyPoint is the constant recycling of old and very old threads.
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SGT Fred Hogan
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In 1966 it was my understanding the P denoted proficiency pay.Correct or misinformed?
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1SG Frank Rocha
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SGT Fred Hogan - there's a couple of different P's in the Army. One next to your rank if you meet all required criteria for promotion, are recommended by your command and subsequently placed on a promotion list (or selected as it pertains to E-7 and above boards). The letter P could also be found as the 5th digit in a Soldiers MOS code who is a paratrooper on jump status.
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It doesn't just mean "you made the list" and I think it's quite unfortunate that you see it as only that. Although not necessary when communicating in public forum the accomplishments of those that have EARNED the right to be promoted should be allowed to distinguish themselves. This has and always will be a means of allowing others to know, that you have done it and have been recognized for your accomplishments. It also allows others in the near future if time elapses in between communications that you may need to address the self as someone differently.<div><br></div><div>And if you haven't heard it from me. It normally gives me a chance to congratulate someone on being SELECTED above their peers for the next career step.</div>
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LTC Stephen B.
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Correct, it also means you have been placed in a position of duty and responsibility of the next higher grade which means the command believes in your abilities at least as much as the board.
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CMSgt Charles Elliott
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A lot of discussion around something as simple as a (P) beside a person's rank. I too was wondering what it meant and thank the Army members for clearing it up. Every service has their own way of determining who's promotable and who isn't and how that promotable person is differentiated from his/her peers. I would advise against taking responses personal or making them personal...just my humble opinion!
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SSG(P) Intelligence Analyst
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I agree with your opinion CMSGT.

 

Personally I don't really get the hype on this topic, nor do I understand why some people take it to heart like they do.

 

Rallypoint allows a member to put (p) next to their rank and from what I can gather and what a previous response already outlined; it is probably to indicate to members on this site that you are promotable and potentially available to other units should one want to move.

 

Beyond that I don't think there is much else to explain.

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