Posted on Mar 12, 2014
Why do people insist on putting (P) beside their rank? Last I checked, Promotable is NOT a rank and only means you made the list.
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Posted 12 y ago
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How does the P get on your DD214?Selection process,testing,etc,documents in supporting same?
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I never used it. I have had the luck to almost always been slotted in positions a grade above my current rank. I was company XO as a 2LT, HHC commander as a 1LT, primary BDE staff officer as a CPT. Heck, I even filled an O5 billet during Key Resolve as a CPT. No one ever seemed to give a rat's arse whether you were (P) or not.
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We have the same thing in the Air Force, but we use () such as (T)Sgt, (M)Sgt, etc. We have a joke about this and it goes like this: What do you call a SSgt select? A Senior Airman.
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Per AR 600-8-19 7-37& 7-37d Soldiers in the selection objective, even though assigned but not yet promoted, are considered “promotable” while on the list, but will not use the letter (P) in correspondence or other documents unless specifically authorized or required in AR 25–50; or another Army policy directive.
In addition:
AR 623-3 2-7 (10) A senior rater who has been selected for promotion and who is in an authorized position for the next grade will be considered to be serving in the next grade. The symbol “P” will be put after their current rank on the applicable OER.
In addition:
AR 623-3 2-7 (10) A senior rater who has been selected for promotion and who is in an authorized position for the next grade will be considered to be serving in the next grade. The symbol “P” will be put after their current rank on the applicable OER.
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Wow, the (P) is simple to what the Navy has done. Sometimes members were identified as "Higher Rank (Sel)" for whatever select. It is always bad that a person refer to him/herself as a Select but those wishing to honor the selection achievement may introduce the Select so others have a heads up. That can work against you by someone broadcasting you have no experience at the next level.
There is a Frocking policy wherein if you were on the list and placed in the higher ranked billet, then you can be authorized to wear the rank. That is frequently done for command billets. We used to say all the responsibilities and crud that came with it without the pay. Oh you couldn't do NJP at the higher level until you had it for real too. And yes, an Admiral Select is always treated differently when that list comes out. If for nothing else, they are invariably chairing the next selection board. Frocking has been in and out of vogue and through my 32 year career it was always out when I showed up on a selection list.
(P) and (Sel). Mixed bag but if managed well can help overall by allowing others to see better where you're at seniority wise.
There is a Frocking policy wherein if you were on the list and placed in the higher ranked billet, then you can be authorized to wear the rank. That is frequently done for command billets. We used to say all the responsibilities and crud that came with it without the pay. Oh you couldn't do NJP at the higher level until you had it for real too. And yes, an Admiral Select is always treated differently when that list comes out. If for nothing else, they are invariably chairing the next selection board. Frocking has been in and out of vogue and through my 32 year career it was always out when I showed up on a selection list.
(P) and (Sel). Mixed bag but if managed well can help overall by allowing others to see better where you're at seniority wise.
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You can only use the (P) if it benefits the Army. It should not be used in any other status. Noone should be going around saying they are a SGT(P). They are SGT. Same goes for every other NCO rank. The only time you are called something beside your actual rank is when you are frocked to 1SG or CSM/SGM.
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I feel like its very tacky and cause Spc that's been in twice as many years get treated way different than the promotable ones even if they don't know there job they are put up on a high horse
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