Posted on Jul 12, 2021
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AR 600-20 is clear. The title of address for a MSG is "Sergeant." My personal opinion is that the majority of MSGs that insist on it do so because of their ego. The remainder is just ignorance.

EDIT: There have been a lot of responses from folks of various services, so let me make it clear (if it wasn't already) that this question pertains to Master Sergeants in the United States Army. I don't hold any grudge with people who address them as "Master Sergeant" out of respect. I usually just make a gentle correction and move on. My question SPECIFICALLY addresses those individuals who (presumably knowing better) INSIST on being addressed in a manner that is out of line with regulation and what their motivation could be for doing so. Many responses are some variation of "They've earned it" but that doesn't hold much water with me. By the time an NCO makes MSG, they should be secure enough in their career and position to not need constant affirmation of their rank.
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SPC Linda Chandler
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As for the Master Sgt,, I still work with the military the army at that fact and win a master sergeant comes in regardless if he’s retired or not I called him master sergeant because I’ve been in the military since I was born army brat and all.
This is the way I see it. They work all their lives to achieve master sergeant, that it becomes a part of them. So they deserve it. It’s just not a sign of respect it’s deeper because as sergeants it slowly gets built in. It’s part of them. Kind of like their DNA.
If you don’t want to call them that so be it but imagine how you would feel finally getting the title of master sergeant and then retiring would still not feeling.
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SPC Linda Chandler
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Hello everyone I would first like to Thank everyone who sent their sentiments in regards to the friend of mine who was murdered a few weeks ago thank you for your kind words. When we give so much of our selves our lives to save lives just hurt so much to see somebody who gave so much and so much more to give killed for nothing.
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CPT Kurk Harris
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I only ran across one who expected to be called Master Sergeant. I made it a point to address him as Sergeant. He never said anything to me, but did to subordinates who worked in the 3 shop with him. Guess he figured he could hurt them for not stroking his ego, but fortunately I didn’t have to deal with it.
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MSgt Maintenance Chief
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Wow. I don't see the good in someone going out of their way of not addressing an individual by the rank on their warrant. I can see how long titles could be cumbersome in combat but in peace time, it helps to promote morale, trust, good order and discipline. In the Marines, this was the least of our problems.
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It’s called their rank Master sergeant! Only the US Army disrespects sergeant and NCO ranks! All other branch’s refer to NCO’s rank by The proper title! I always felt for the Army it was laziness to referred somebody by the proper rank! Call a Master Chief, Chief and prepare yourself for the onslaught of reprisal! When I Joined the Army after the MARINES I addressed Master sergeant by the proper rank not Sarg or sergeant! Show the proper respect they earned you haven’t yet!
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That's a lot of exclamation points. Thank you for your service.
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SPC Brian Stephens
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It could be ego. On the other hand, some of the younger Master Sergeants may not yet have been assigned to a company as a 1st Sergeant. At least not yet. On my end, lower enlisted, how the hell would I know? E-8, no matter what it is, is one of the most senior ranks that signifies at least nearly a couple of decades of experience. If I call them Top and I get dropped for 20, I'm fine with it.
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GySgt Troy Wiltshire
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I always wondered why SNCO’s in the Army allowed the laziness and disrespect of their subordinates, but I never imagined that it was written into your regulations. There are no words to express how disturbing and appalling that is! Then the comments in here from senior Soldiers putting down those who want the respect of their rank…is the rank of MSG just handed out and not earned? Instead of putting down those who demand respect maybe you should work on changing Army regulation to get rid of laziness and disrespect and encourage intensity and respect! I am a Marine that’s been retired for almost five years now, and I usually just blended in to the general population when I was active, and I do understand that some individuals do get promoted that don’t deserve it, but this is just majorly disappointing. You don’t address them by their full rank because you respect that particular individual, you address them by their rank because you respect that rank itself and what it stands for and means and what it took to get to. This same laziness and disrespect is rampant in the civilian population because parents and just adults in general have not demanded the respect of children, so now we have a bunch of entitled brats running around killing our own country. The armed services should be the one place that remains steadfast in the demanding of respect for things that should be respected and to not allow laziness, maybe if all the services did that then it would start to bleed over into the civilian sector. Instead we all tend to just get slimy as the culture degrades just to, what? Fit in, keep up recruiting, just be lazy ourselves…
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You're kidding right? If you think that addressing a Master Sergeant as "Sergeant" (as the regulation spells out) is tantamount to laziness and disrespect, then I don't think you truly understand where respect comes from. Hint: it's not from titles.
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1SG (Join to see) - you obviously didn’t read my whole comment or maybe you didn’t understand what I wrote. The first part of my comment was that I never understood why y’all called so many different ranks sergeant, that is until I read your edit of it actually being a regulation. Then I was commenting on what that does and instead of soldiers like yourself whining about someone being called by the rank that hopefully they earned, maybe you should concentrate on fixing your regulation. I said that the respect is not about the individual, but about the rank itself and what it supposedly takes to attain that rank (I can respect the rank even if I think the individual is a piece of you know what). And finally I said that there are individuals that do slip by and get promoted that definitely do not deserve to get promoted, but that’s why it’s not about the individual it’s about the rank itself. In the Marine Corps every rank is respected from the lowliest Private to the highest General, because in most cases every rank was earned not given.
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Oh I definitely read what you wrote. I just think you're wrong. The Regus is fine just the way it is, and it doesn't matter how things are done in the Marine Cirps. Respecting the rank doesn't entitle someone to a special form of address just because they think they're special and can ignore the regulation.
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SPC Ramon Cruz
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I don't know but I was working as a traveling Medical Laboratory Technician in a small hospital and there was a retired MSgt who was a patient and also ate at the cafeteria alot. I forget exactly how it happened but he has a Veteran cap on and I called him Sgt. My coworkers were pretty entertained because he did the whole I am MSgt so and so and you will respect my rank and locked me up. They said they never saw me stand up so straight.
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SPC Norm Gallaher
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Similar to Lt. Colonel and full Colonel. Always referred to them each as Colonel unless one of each was present.
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SPC Phil Norton
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I addressed my MSG as Master Sergeant simply because my CSM demanded it of me. So because it wasn’t an unlawful order I followed that. Now when the CSM wasn’t around it was just Sergeant. However if the MSG wanted to be addressed by title I would do that again not unlawful do what the ranking person says. I never had a problem either way MSG is really just a 1st SGT with no command. I also called all my 1st SGT Top so really the point is just call ‘‘em what they want. Because the lower enlisted couldn’t give 2 turds how any Senior NCO wants to be addressed.
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