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Why do you think there are so many school shootings now as opposed to say 25 to 30 years ago? We all know that guns can’t shoot themselves, so obviously that is not the problem in my opinion. I honestly believe that there is a direct correlation between the rise of school shootings and the taking of God out of the classroom, and kids not getting a well deserved a** whooping. Thoughts on this?
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SSgt Michael Cox
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So this has been on the news everywhere lately. The number one reason in my opinion is bullying be it physical, verbal, or online. Also the school systems reluctance to do anything about because of possibility outing a child of being gay.

Personally if the child’s life is danger I would care about what mom or dad might say or do. There are city and state services that could help even if it meant foster care.

Schools need to punish offenders legally also and put bullies and the bullied In detention together. And parents of bullies should also be held accountable just like parents of kids that skip school. My Ex GF was arrested at work in front of her employees because her child was skipping school to play world of warcraft.
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SMSgt Greg Karrels
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When you had one room schools and the older kids helped mentor the younger kids this crap didn’t happen yet everyone was around guns then.
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Why? Because we have a leftist agenda driven media that gives them the glory and publicity that they seek to the detriment of all other news coverage. Otherwise they get hung up on the old Russian election conspiracy once again. When there is no whacko shooter ready to be wound up and set loose, then they will manufacture something like Stormy Daniels. When all else fails they fall back on the Russian election fixing story rehash.
MSG Gary George
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Well I just retired from teaching and coaching. I spent 30 years in the AD and Reserves side of the Army. In the last 10 years or so how many of you have seen bewilderment in the eyes of a Soldier when they get in trouble? There are no consequences in schools for your actions. When your butt in the seat determines how much money a school district gets it determines consequences. I have seen kids fight and be back in the classroom that day. The few times they do get suspended is when they go after an administrator verbally or physically. They can do almost anything to another student or teacher. Parents don't think their johnny or susie can do anything wrong. If a kid fails it is usually cause they missed to much school. As far as God not being in schools it doesn't matter if He is not in the homes.
Next if you back in history to the late 60's through 70's and they stopped institutionalizing people with mental problems you can see the results. Instead of putting people in institutions they medicate them. These people stop using their meds and this is what you get.
Trying to solve this problem with just one solution will never work. It has to be a multiple prong attack. Bringing discipline back into the schools and families. Raising expectations for all students. Introducing God back into the family will solve many of the problems. The last is the hard one and that is the mental aspect.
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SrA Michael Magro
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The problem is bullying. If these kids didn't bully each other, there wouldn't be shootings. When I was in high school we used to fight after school under the bridge. Now they shoot each other. Kids have no respect for one another. Emma González admitted to bullying Nikolas Cruz since middle school and her excuse was we didn't know him. Maybe if she offered to eat lunch with him, or even talk to him, 17 students would still be alive. Its time to start holding bullies responsible and accountable is the person they bullied murders someone.
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CPO Thomas Schussler
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30% of American children live in single parent households. 25% of American children live in poverty. 19% of American children to to bed hungry. Given these facts it seem logical to assume that the breakdown of the family unit and the resulting consequences i.e. lack of positive role models, lack of discipline, etc. in combination with a feeling of hopelessness can only result in abhorrent behavior. Guns don't have anything to do with it...anymore so than spoons causing obesity. Bullying may play a role but only to the extent that society has come to the conclusion that kids shouldn't have to stand up for themselves. To the contrary....a kid that punches a bully in the nose often finds him or herself in more trouble than the bully!
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SPC Ralph Ellis
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"God in the classroom" has precisely zero to do with it.
There is absolutely no correlation there whatsoever.
(As if you could keep a purportedly omnipresent, omnipotent deity out of a given area anyways)

Where there *is* correlation, is the soft, entitled, and emotively-driven nature of society that has been born of our success at the global level. Consumerist society where children and mass sections of society are told how important their feelings are, and how everyone else should capitulate to them.
*There* is your problem.

Americans are historically a "pioneer" people. We were used to the rough rigors of life, and absolutely knew how, for the most part, to move beyond rejection, and blaze our own trails. A stalwart pragmatic nature was a part of our fabric that we cut out somewhere along the way.

Now it's all mocha frappes, Twitter, and Facebook.

Interestingly, even though I have nearly 2 decades in IT, I think it's also a product of being able to regularly interact with and project ones shadow self (Sorry. Jungian theory here.) so frequently due to the anonymity of the internet. This allows people to identify with, interact, and readily make available traits of their darker personality.

Combine persistent violent internalized and justified introspection with the idea of immortalization and teenage angst,. and tuh duh! Mass shootings.
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SrA Matthew Oneil
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BECAUSE THE BUS COMES BEFORE THE SCHOOL
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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COL North said it is due to Ritalin. I myself think they are angry virgins.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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For much the same reason far more drowning deaths occur by open bodies of water, I imagine.
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PO2 Arthur Escalante
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Things that encompass Family values and Respect for others seems to be forgotten nowdays. Kids need to be less involved in problems that should be their parents problems. High schoolers get out of school and they can't function in the 'real world', can't cook,do laundry,sew a button on,manage money,have lost the ability to solve life problems. They have to work to get ahead,starting at the bottom and working to get to the top,not starting off where their parents are now in life.
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