Posted on May 18, 2014
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First let me say I am biased in my opinion since I am a single soldier. The Army stacks the deck against single soldiers, in a variety of ways. There are standards that single soldiers are forced to obey that married soldiers are not. Purely just because of their marriage.

Housing is my personal biggest area of concern being a single soldier. I am a 27 yr old college graduate. I get the same "rights" in my living quarters that a single 17/18 yr old straight out of high-school would get. If that same soldier is married, they get considerably more freedom, pay, and budget control than I do.

I as a single soldier get no say in where I live. At my current duty station the BAH for my rank and dependent status (Single, E-4) would be $1,068. So I essentially pay $1,068 dollars a month to live in the barracks. The barracks I live in have two separate bedrooms, with a common kitchen and bathroom area. Since there are two soldiers in each little barracks apartment, we collectively pay $2,136 a month for this set up. That is FAR more then what a similar apartment style would cost in the surrounding communities. If single soldiers were allowed to have BAH and live where they choose we could potentially save several hundred dollars a month by controlling our living expenses. That's not including the approximately $300 a month we are forced to pay for the DFACs.

There is also the issue of furniture in the barracks. Again we have no say, we get whatever the Army already has in the room. Personally I would love to have an actual nice mattress, instead of these cheap plastic blue ones.

Barracks inspections. I can't stand barracks inspections. The inspections are completely up to the person doing them and what they "think" the standard should be. One inspection your could be fine, the next one your getting lectured about how to make a bed. Last summer I had to write a 2 page paper for an LT about personal standards in the barracks. All because my bed didn't have hospital corners. (That morning when I get up I tossed my blanket off to the right of me, where it was just sorta crunched up against the wall running the length of my bed.) If I want to know what I am allowed to have and not have in my room, I have to read three different policy letters to find out. Division could allow something, Brigade could say no, and then Battalion have nothing about it at all. I get that lower commands are allowed to restrict privileges as they see fit. I'm just saying it's cumbersome to have to read three different levels policy to find out what is what.

It annoys me that I have to have periodic inspections(currently every morning before PT for my company) while married soldiers receive no inspections just because they are married. I get that they have a family, I just don't see why that should stop a squad leader from making a planned, announced, and visual walk-through of the house of the married soldier. Keeping the same standard of living as a single soldier should be part of the military life.

Meal Deductions. I don't think the DFACs are worth the $300 a month I have to pay. I hate having to "play" the "I am a Meal Card Holder" card to get lunch sometimes during work. It's usually followed by a married soldier saying "I'm working thru lunch, you don't see me bitching about wanting to leave for food". True. However when we miss our lunch it's gone. The money we paid is gone rather we ate that meal or not. Married people if they bring their lunch it'll still be there later. If they eat out, then well that's just money they didn't spend that day. They can use it tomorrow to get twice as much for lunch or eat somewhere more expensive depending on their budget.

We get no say in what sounds good for dinner. It's whatever the DFAC has. Sometimes that means either fried or grilled chicken. If they run out of one thing, it'll be whatever they have left. It's not right. It leaves married people with control over their diet and single soldiers with whatever the Army needed to clean out of the fridge.

The above is just Big Army things, the discrimination continues all the way down to the company level. At my company single soldiers who live in the barracks are not allowed to park in the lot in front of the company. Now our barracks is approximately 3/4 mile down the road. Our motor pool is another 3/4 mile the other direction. I find it silly that an entire parking lot is reserved for married people. Sure single soldiers can drive to work, but we have to park in the barracks across the street. Which is not the barracks we live in. Married people can't park in that same lot if the one in front of company is full? To a point I can understand the reasoning behind this, but single soldiers have to leave and run here and there just like our married counter-parts. Why should they get special parking treatment? I don't see anyone stopping married people from using the barracks washers and dryers to avoid buying their own/going to coin laundry mats. Why are married people allowed to dip their hands in our honey and slap ours away from theirs?

Like I said from the start I'm biased. I look over the fence and see greener grass. Perhaps this is all just one single soldier bitching and complaining.

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Update FEB 2019: Since I originally posted this message, I have gotten married. My view on the subject has not changed. I want to respond to some of the overarching themes in everyone responses.

“Quit bitching/whining/complaining.” I feel there is a difference between logically laying out issues and grievances and just bitching about them. The number of leaders who contributions on this post/topic amounted to “quit saying words” is disheartening.

“Get married/Army will issue you a wife.” Saying to get married just to move out of the barracks is a failure of leadership. Those of you (in my opinion) with that mentally should reconsider what you do/did and what your job is/was. As a former Infantry NCO I have dealt with the countless issues that arise when a soldier quickly marries someone for the wrong reason (example: get out of the barracks). The domestic issues, spouse calling in to the Staff Duty, soldier isn’t training because of counseling/FAP/court/Divorce related nonsense, greatly diminishes readiness which the last I checked the Army still considers to be pretty important.

“I had more money/I wish I was back in the barracks/ but but bills! etc.” Bull. I wish I could challenge anyone who says that to actually prove it. As stated, I am married now. I have more money, flexibility, and financial freedom then I did as a single E-4. Now some of that is because I’m a higher rank. Part of it is because I use BAH as intended to cover housing/bills, my BAS for food, and having the control over how much I spend on those two items is very important. Also, my spouse works. I have come to realize that is less than common for married soldiers in the Army. However, I would argue that getting married and not having both spouses working is a decision that you made going in to it. I’m not arguing/stating if it’s the right or wrong choice. It’s what you decided worked for ya’ll. To me it’s the equivalent of a private going out and buying that 23% interest Mustang then complaining about how much money it costs and how he used to have it so much better without that car payment. If you choose (by getting married/having kids) to feed/house/care for additional people (spouse/kids) and yet do nothing to increase your income than yeah…you’ll have less money. That is a very poor argument for what the original post was about.

a. Hopefully ^above^ I’ve made my point clear and concise seems a little muddy to me, I guess we shall see in future comments.

“Move off post.” That’s not an option. Well I guess it is, however single soldiers still have to maintain the barracks room they get assigned, they still wouldn’t get the BAH entitlement, and they would have to still pay the DFAC out of their BAS. Do I need to continue on the ignorance of that statement? Sure, there’s a packet you can submit and ask to receive those allowances, I’ve only ever seen get accepted once and that was when my BDE changed from Light to Armored, only for E-5s, and it was suggested only if they were on orders and would be PCS’ing soon anyhow. They wanted non-PCS’ing E-5s still in the barracks. I don’t recall if I stated it in my original post but that unofficial additional duty of being an NCO at the barracks is crap. “You’re an NCO at the barracks keep everyone in line down there after work and on weekends”, thought that’s what CQ was for. I’ll also comment on the “single people off post would party to much/be late to formation/traffic at the gates/ get in trouble in town more” line of nonsense. It’s ignorant. Along with the “paying dues” comments.

Veterans- I appreciate you are still active in the boarder military community, and recognize that your time in the service paved the way for what we did/do/have accomplished today. However, pointing out how things were worse yesterday compared today and to “suck it up” is lazy. There is no reason we can’t keep pointing out things today to make tomorrow even better. I’m sure there is crap I can’t even fathom that ya’ll dealt with back in the 60s, 80s, and what have you that were fixed because of people continuing to bring the issue up.

Lastly, I’ve enjoyed reading the varied amount of responses everyone has on the topic. If mine come off as aggressive or across the line it was not my intention. When I posted the original stuff above 4+ almost 5 years ago I never expected it to get attention and still receive emails notifications years later. I’m fairly sure I’ve read 90% of the comments because Rally Point sends me an email every time someone comments. No I did not add that picture at the top, it’s the website. Sorry if you clicked on a Rally Point ad somewhere that linked to this post only to see it’s from 2014. I don’t control those. It’s the website. Yes I’m sure there are a few grammar and spelling errors. If you point it out at the beginning of a comment, I’m more likely to see it and correct the issue. Cheers to several more years of being told why I’m wrong.
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SGT Human Resources Specialist
You sir, deserve a COA for this magnificent representation of the status for Single Soldiers. Yes, we are discriminated in multiple methods but the infinity of it would take more than a publication including a variety of personal experiences nationwide. We are treated as worthless but often times we do and strive better than soldiers who are married. Some will say sick it up but for how long until you knock that next door neighbor out who you've been meaning I'll will since then say fuck it I'm out. Depending on you MOS E6 is not something you can expect to obtain within 5 years quick nor marriage depending on your personal stance of it. Marriage in general should not be rushed but because of the military you find most will bend either morals or their own rules just to keep up or not get frowned upon. It's can be cruel experience as you move from one unit to the next. I love the follow ups though when these E6's make rank and you see the trouble they ensue themselves into. Because of rank most of the time they get leniency or they fail at what people expet to be common life lessons. But what do you expect? Big Brother takes you in throws you in a room with a refrigerator and bed then hands you a meal card. He tells you you got a nice set up and won't have to worry bout a thing. Then one day your an E6 having to take care of stuff that most people your age should already know. But what you see is a bigger pay increase and some unexplored freedom. What do you do? Pay them child support bills or turn up on that tuesday? I would infinity vote you if I could but I'm sure fellow survivors will find this post and what can be done.
PFC M240 Gunner
Couldn't have said it better myself.
SPC Erich Guenther
Geez, this argument has been going on since I was in service in the 1980's. A couple of comments. I felt the same way my first 18 months in the Army and saw the same things. What changed? My Army unit, I went from one I thought sucked to the wonderful 101st Airborne Division. Suddenly I was in an Army unit focused on training up for the next conflict instead of one that wanted it's Soldiers to look nice at all times. Big difference there and just mentioning. Second, inspections are part of being in the Army and your Chain of Command should have a barracks maintenence SOP book on what the standards are. If they don't then suggest it to your 1SG and put one together. However, your just plain crazy if you think private housing is not inspected by the Army. It should be by your immediate Chain of Command on a regular basis but some don't do it unless they overhear barracks talk that so and so can't afford shoes for his kids. DFACs or as an old guy like me calls them Mess Halls, in my day the 101st kept one Mess Hall open 24 by 7 on post for the Soldiers that miss a meal.......so check that out first before you assume there is no way to recover. Also, if you find your regularly missing meals because someone higher on the chain of command can't manage time, then go see your 1SG as that is a quality of life issue. Missing a meal here or there is not going to kill you. The last thing I see that your doing is significantly underrating a Married Soldier, depending on the marriage they generally have two 1SG to keep happy, one at home and one on post. When the one at home gets mad it impacts a lot more than meals. So the whole parking lot restriction thing that existed when I was in uniform is to recognize that most Married Soldiers because they have a kid or need to drive off and on post a few times a day (where you do not) it's nice to have a ready available parking space to pull into to get to formation on time. So I think that is a courtesy the Army is extending to them knowing and respecting their Married obligations.
MAJ FAO - Europe
MAJ (Join to see)
>1 y
The Army--and society, in general--have changed for the better since the 1980s. Extending privileges to an individual based on marital status is discrimination, pure and simple.
SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
>1 y
I disagree on it being that black and white. One can take each of the above policies and base it on rank and it will hit single soldiers almost the exact same way. So are you advocating that the Army give up all priveleges based on rank or MOS/Branch? If so I would pay good money to take pictures while an Army Hospital Staff eats at a predominantly Infantry Mess.........for starters. Or how about a Full Bird Colonel at Brigade Level sitting on a normal wooden Office Desk Chair like us lower enlisteds had too vs. the Palatial Throne they usually get. If you make the Army completely egalitarian your going to have a serious retention issue at some point.
SFC Rob Frisk
I've lived in all 3 during my career. As an NCO you should respect the rational of baracks inspection- and though you don't get inspected per say with quarters you're still responsible (which you'd quickly learn if you've ever had to clear) and where else are you going to get your food and shelter covered for so little while being so close to work? Today's soldiers whine about everything.
Sgt Jeffrey Ford
Single soldiers definitely get the shaft, if Uncle Sam wanted you to have a wife and kids he would have issued them to
You.
SFC George Smith
I never saw the as Deck Stacked ...
SPC James Harsh
Can you 'marry' your battle buddy?
MAJ Multifunctional Logistician
You have many valid points, and I will agree with you on most but not everything. Believe it or not, the Army has come a long time in the past 3-4 decades. I've only been in for nearly 18 years, but I remember old timers taking about the "good ol' days" when married Soldiers would often be told by their leadership: "If the Army wanted you to have a wife, they'd have issued you one". That is to say, married Soldiers used to be discriminated against more so than single Soldiers.

As for the barracks, again, I hear what you are saying, but just 10 years ago, when I was in Korea, Soldiers were living two to a room with a bathroom they shared with the two Soldiers living in the next room over. No common area with a kitchenette shared by two roommates. You want to cook? Go to common area at the end of the hall, shared by everyone on your floor. There you can cook, play pool or whatever with 50 of your closest friends. When I was in college, 15 years ago or so, I lived in the dorms for the first year and a half. There I had a roommate sharing the same room with me, and a community bathroom for every guy on my floor. We were a dry campus, so no alcohol was allowed in the dorms, even though I turned 21 three months into my Freshman year. Oh, and I paid the university $2,000 per semester for the privilege of living there. Soldiers in the barracks today have it much better than that by far.

As for the separate rats that married Soldiers get, I believe that many would counter your arguement, saying that they are forced to work through lunch or work late, to cover for the Soldiers who must eat at the DFAC.

By now you're probably thinking that I'm not on your side. Not true. I'm just providing perspective that things used to be much worse than they are today. I believe the military should get rid of barracks entirely. Now I'm no budgetary expert, but it seems to me that paying each single Soldier the local BAH rate to live off post is the way to go. It would save on the cost of building new barracks and remodeling old ones, maintaining them, paying utilities on them, and it would definitely save the chain of command time not having to inspect them. It would also teach Soldiers some much needed financial management skills. If you can't pay your rent or utilities because you blew your entire pay check on booze, make that a UCMJ punishable offense, but otherwise keep the chain of command out of Soldiers' living arrangements. We have way more barracks space than we have Soldiers, anyway, and with the drawdown, it's getting worse. When I was a CO in Germany, I commanded a company with 162 Soldiers authorized. We had a barracks with space for 160 Soldiers, but at any time we only filled 60-70 rooms. That's less than a 50% occupancy rate. Now tell me that wasn't a waste. To add to it, they were building new barracks on that post, even as they deactivated the post's largest tenant unit. So... just my two cents, but if the Army has that kind of cash to throw away, they could just as easily pay your BAH (or OHA) to live off post, and use the land for more training area.
SSG Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
Preach brother preach!
SSG Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
Unfortunately you make some valuable arguments, but there are other things that single soldiers get that married ones do not.

Let me start off with saying be thankful you live in Army barracks. When I was a Corpsman stationed with the Marines in Camp Lejeune I had 3 other people living in my room. 2 sets of bunk beds, 4 wall lockers and an bathroom. That's it.

But while you aren't receiving BAH you also don't have to deal with post housing.

Another thing is the BOSS program. I am stationed in Alaska and if I want to go halibut fishing it will cost me almost a grand if not more for the same trip a single soldier can take for 150 bucks.

There are ups and downs on both sides of the fence. And as you get promoted you can recieved BAH and be single. Sgt (p) gets BAH at my last 2 duty stations.

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