Posted on Sep 6, 2015
CSM Carl Cunningham
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I have worked with all the services frequently during my career. I see the ups and downs in each service. The Army seems to have the biggest attitude towards itself though. I would like to hear thoughts as to why Soldiers seems to talk bad or dislike the service that I love. Some may disagree this is true, but I do not think I am off base by stating this.

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Do you think it is possible for the Army to ever show the universal pride in service that the USMC does?
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CPL David Markham
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It's been 50 + years since I was in the Army and I for one have great pride at being in the Army.
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SPC Elisabeth Vinal
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I have seen this too, especially during my time at US Joint Forces Command. One important distinction between the Marines and Army is there are far fewer Marines. This, by definition, makes the Corps unique and distinctive in the Services.

I was Army National Guard, and there was and still is a pervasive "disrespect" of the State Armies National Guard, earned or not. I find myself educating people about Posse Comitatus and the real-world missions and duties of Guardsmen far more often than I think I should.

Greater Army pride is possible, but it is up to our fellow brothers and sisters to be proud of their service, whether they are recognized or not. Finally, we can take lessons from each Service and apply to how we are proud...espirit de corps, loyalty, valor, respect, honor, self-discipline, love of country and each other.

Not every American can claim these character traits built in the experiences of Basic Training, AIR, unit training, deployments, and the crucible of combat. Be proud, Army, always in being part of the relative few in the world who serve or have served, with honor, the greatest Nation on earth!
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William Oliver
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With a son in the Marines and nephew leaving the Army...the sentiment is the Marines have not yet been compromised by politics. The Army has dumbed down their standards to accommodate those who would not measure up the the riggers war demands.
They Marines are under attack too, to soften their standards, though a smaller and more cohesive Corp harder to crack. But make no mistake the activist are at work.
Take the Boy Scouts demise. Even leadership is being worn down, often by quilt tripping. Rex Tillerson a good example.
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CSM Patrick Durr
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Poorly worded question. You're assuming that the Army doesn't have as much pride as the MC. I've served 32 years in one , as Senior Enlisted advisor to a USMC MG, and along side Marines for years. Pride is just shown in many different ways. Don't confuse conduct with real pride. Judge the individual, not the uniform.
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1LT Vance Titus
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Not all roses. When the Marines went home in 1970 from I Corps some of them left "presents" for the Army units that moved in to replace them. I was at Cau Viet. The Marine barracks there were booby trapped. Fortunately no one was hurt, but the Marines' parting shot was not their finest showing.
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SFC Steven Borders
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CSM Carl Cunningham SGM, I believe we do show pride but really in a different way. Think of how much bigger the Army as compared to the Marines. No, we don't get an eagle globe and anchor when we graduate. I didn't need that when I graduated Basic and AIT, I felt a sense of pride and honor. Like others have said we know we are the biggest and badest, and really don't need to flaunt that around. I also think we show it in our Dress uniform, compared to other branches we show off a lot more. I am proud of being an Army Soldier, and I believe there is a lot here that are proud too.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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I think the difference is that the Marines take pride in being a Marine, plus it is a much smaller force overall - where in the Army, it is more about unit pride - just ask most Rakkasans, both past and present, about the pride they have in being in the 3rd BCT, 187 Infantry, 101st Airborne Division - there are soldiers here in Italy that have a Tori prominently displayed on their vehicle.
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SGT Tim. Wilson
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After being in the Army for shy of ten years, rushed medical discharge (imo) so I wouldn't get any retirement.
Anyway, in my day basic and AIT were basically all done at one place. I was an MP, during basic there was no reference to our school but we were referred to as soldiers. My son did 8 yrs in the Corps before he had had enough of the BS, his words and got out, but during boot camp for the Corps they are not referred to as marines but as recruits or boots, they earn the title of Marine the day they graduate from boot camp and receive their EGA pin. The Army didn't have anything like this when I was in and we trained as squad and platoon I just don't think it was as tight as is done in the Corps. And from what I hear, at least for awhile Army recruits were given timeout cards so if they got to stressed or they needed a break from training they raised their card and were excused for 15 mins. Yes I have only heard this from a few people, one being mine who witnessed it when he was training to be a tank mechanic, he said it blew his mind. Which kinda made me glad that I got out when I did. We didn't have those and you sure as he'll couldn't use them on ANY battlefield so why allow them? I probably would have been court marshalled if one of my troops held up one these cards, I would have taken him to the sandpit and knocked the crap out of him or rather try and council some sense into him.
And after what 45 did today, going back on the Iranian piece accord, I seriously wonder how long until we are in a really major war again. All because he wanted to undue something the last President helped accomplish. Either that or he saw Infinity War and now considers himself Thanos!
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CW3 Chuck Huddleston
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We do have lots of pride, but we just don't run around tooting our horn about it to everyone. We know we are powerful, united and let our history demonstrate our effectiveness. GO ARMY!!!!!!!!
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SFC Harold Schaeffer
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Agree the army needs more combat training especially small arms training.
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