Posted on Sep 6, 2015
CSM Carl Cunningham
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I have worked with all the services frequently during my career. I see the ups and downs in each service. The Army seems to have the biggest attitude towards itself though. I would like to hear thoughts as to why Soldiers seems to talk bad or dislike the service that I love. Some may disagree this is true, but I do not think I am off base by stating this.

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Do you think it is possible for the Army to ever show the universal pride in service that the USMC does?
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CSM Patrick Durr
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Poorly worded question. You're assuming that the Army doesn't have as much pride as the MC. I've served 32 years in one , as Senior Enlisted advisor to a USMC MG, and along side Marines for years. Pride is just shown in many different ways. Don't confuse conduct with real pride. Judge the individual, not the uniform.
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1LT Vance Titus
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Not all roses. When the Marines went home in 1970 from I Corps some of them left "presents" for the Army units that moved in to replace them. I was at Cau Viet. The Marine barracks there were booby trapped. Fortunately no one was hurt, but the Marines' parting shot was not their finest showing.
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SSG Steven Borders
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CSM Carl Cunningham SGM, I believe we do show pride but really in a different way. Think of how much bigger the Army as compared to the Marines. No, we don't get an eagle globe and anchor when we graduate. I didn't need that when I graduated Basic and AIT, I felt a sense of pride and honor. Like others have said we know we are the biggest and badest, and really don't need to flaunt that around. I also think we show it in our Dress uniform, compared to other branches we show off a lot more. I am proud of being an Army Soldier, and I believe there is a lot here that are proud too.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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I think the difference is that the Marines take pride in being a Marine, plus it is a much smaller force overall - where in the Army, it is more about unit pride - just ask most Rakkasans, both past and present, about the pride they have in being in the 3rd BCT, 187 Infantry, 101st Airborne Division - there are soldiers here in Italy that have a Tori prominently displayed on their vehicle.
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SGT Tim. Wilson
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After being in the Army for shy of ten years, rushed medical discharge (imo) so I wouldn't get any retirement.
Anyway, in my day basic and AIT were basically all done at one place. I was an MP, during basic there was no reference to our school but we were referred to as soldiers. My son did 8 yrs in the Corps before he had had enough of the BS, his words and got out, but during boot camp for the Corps they are not referred to as marines but as recruits or boots, they earn the title of Marine the day they graduate from boot camp and receive their EGA pin. The Army didn't have anything like this when I was in and we trained as squad and platoon I just don't think it was as tight as is done in the Corps. And from what I hear, at least for awhile Army recruits were given timeout cards so if they got to stressed or they needed a break from training they raised their card and were excused for 15 mins. Yes I have only heard this from a few people, one being mine who witnessed it when he was training to be a tank mechanic, he said it blew his mind. Which kinda made me glad that I got out when I did. We didn't have those and you sure as he'll couldn't use them on ANY battlefield so why allow them? I probably would have been court marshalled if one of my troops held up one these cards, I would have taken him to the sandpit and knocked the crap out of him or rather try and council some sense into him.
And after what 45 did today, going back on the Iranian piece accord, I seriously wonder how long until we are in a really major war again. All because he wanted to undue something the last President helped accomplish. Either that or he saw Infinity War and now considers himself Thanos!
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CW3 Chuck Huddleston
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We do have lots of pride, but we just don't run around tooting our horn about it to everyone. We know we are powerful, united and let our history demonstrate our effectiveness. GO ARMY!!!!!!!!
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SFC Harold Schaeffer
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Agree the army needs more combat training especially small arms training.
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CPT Alfred Smiley
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The Marine Corps Hymn teaches its history in battle. The Army's "Over Hill, Over Dale" does not. I once wrote new words for the Army Hymn in hopes of remedying the shortcoming:
To Lexington and Concord Town
we filed in from all around,
though our Army had yet to be formed.
Minutemen, guns in hand,
rushed in to defend Our Land,
the Militia poured in from their farms.
There the Redcoats formed their ranks
and they fired upon the Yanks,
and attempted to torch the very town!
So we pushed them from the bridge,
and fired from every fence and ridge,
'til back to Boston they fled in alarm.
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CPT Alfred Smiley
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I don't know if it's true, but I used to hear it said that every Marine squad in the Pacific Theater in WWII was composed of 10 Infantrymen and 1 Cameraman. The point was that the Marines supposedly launched a major PR effort during WWII to publicize their exploits. Come to think of it, you don't hear much in military lore about the Marines until their daring amphibious landings in the Pacific.
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CPT Alfred Smiley
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For one thing, it's taught. I was always impressed about how Marines can tell you that the "blood stripe" on their dress blue pant leg was earned at the Battle of Chapultepec, Mexico in 1848 (the vaunted "Halls of Montezuma"). The Army's history is even more impressive (Concord Bridge, Lexington Green, Bunker Hill, etc.), but it's not taught to our soldiers. I think the Army has long missed an opportunity to inspire its troops by not teaching its history.
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