Posted on Sep 6, 2015
CSM Carl Cunningham
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I have worked with all the services frequently during my career. I see the ups and downs in each service. The Army seems to have the biggest attitude towards itself though. I would like to hear thoughts as to why Soldiers seems to talk bad or dislike the service that I love. Some may disagree this is true, but I do not think I am off base by stating this.

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Do you think it is possible for the Army to ever show the universal pride in service that the USMC does?
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"I would like to hear thoughts as to why Soldiers seems to talk bad or dislike the service that I love." The Army is a giant bureaucracy that often hypocritically contradicts itself and can't even agree how to wear a patrol cap. There are numerous Soldiers that don't know regulations or simply ignore the regulations that try to implement "one size fits all" policies that screw over Soldiers in the name of reducing the staff's workload. Slang and obsolete terminology often dominates over official nomenclature and current terminology making it nearly impossible for Soldiers to find information in doctrine. The reasons Soldiers dislike the Army are plenty; not to mention all the BS like this: https://taskandpurpose.com/mattis-niger-ambush-blame/
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The USMC has the best brainwashing and marketing of all branches. The entire Marine Corps is smaller than just the Army Reserve yet USMC merchandise sales (stickers, hats, shirts, mugs, posters, etc.) rivals Army sales and there are far more Army Soldiers (currently serving and veterans), than Marines.

The USMC is so small and the turnover is so high, that it is easier to retell more tales with heroic pride and eliminate things that are unwanted or embarrassing. They are able to stay on message and indoctrinate their members far better than the other services. There is also a personal pride and near universal peer pressure that embraces and emboldens "Semper Fidelis". This is often reinforced daily in their customs, traditions, and service mythology. Marines are often required to memorize and repeat their mythology at various schools and selection boards. It is also a point of individual pride to out do other Marines in being able to recall or recite the more obscure aspects of USMC trivia/lore.

Every service has it's own mythology, legends, and fairy tales, but the extent that Marines as a whole seem to believe the tales appears to be far greater than in the other services. Explaining to a Marine that one of their fairy tales isn't true is sort of like telling a kid that Santa isn't real.

Take the tale of "blood stripes" as an example. Every Marine is taught that the “blood stripe,” commemorates Marines killed in the battle of Chapultepec in 1847. However, the reality is that the wearing of stripes on the trousers pre-dates the battle. In fact, Marine Corps trousers from as far back as the 1790s had red welts and piping down the outer seams. I believe only one Marine NCO was killed in the battle too.

https://www.usmcmuseum.com/lore-of-the-corps.html
https://taskandpurpose.com/everything-know-marine-corps-uniform-wrong/
https://archive.org/stream/MarineCorpsLore#mode/2up
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SGT Steve Burczyk
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Apparently you never visited The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington. Americas best soldiers protect it not Marines.
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PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster
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I am one Army Soldier that is glad for the Marines. We talk 'smack' to each other, but family does that, and we fight together when we have to, but The Marines are known as the FEW,THE PROUD.I did PT one day with a Marine and my Army tail end was dragging in 15 minutes, but I was glad to see and know I was covered. Each Branch works together so please, put who has the most Pride to rest, cause we are ALL in it AS A TEAM.
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