Posted on Mar 3, 2016
Why does the older generation tend to be conservative while the younger generation today is more liberal?
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I will always be about progress, I will always be about moving forward as a society. So why is it people cling onto outdated ideology? by which I mean those who are against things like interracial relationship, the LGBT movement, or anything that was generally accepted as the norm over 60+ years ago. why is it that some people don't want society to change?
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What if you never get old are you stuck in purgatory of politics forever???
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I would start to question your sources. I am part of your "older generation" and I am very liberal. I have changed a lot singe I was a PFC (1971-72). I use to be a republican; Now I'm not. I support gay marriage, or as I call it, marriage. And I do not believe I'm the only one.
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CPL Geoffrey A. Pfister Sr
SGT (Join to see) - Actually I believe that statement to be wrong considering mixed marriage...Moses had a colored wife...the problem with gay marriage is that it flies in direct affront to natural law as well as Biblical law. Never mind the Supreme Court overstepped their authority in the matter because that is a right delegated to the individual states. For the record I support Civil Unions and believe that they can be awarded the same contractual rights as married people...but seeing as they can't reproduce through natural means thy are not eligible for that status...I don't care what others think on the matter and the truth remains that these people made a conscious choice to defy nature. I believe that is their right but also believe that it doesn't give them the right to force others to capitulate to their whims...that is actually a violation of Constitutional law because they are infringing upon other peoples rights to practice their beliefs.
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SSG Gerhard S.
I would point out that Republicans, in general, are not Conservative... they do not seek to conserve or support the limited governance, and individual/economic freedoms upon which our country was founded... If we wish to use labels, the word "liberal" (which is a hijacked misnomer today) is inappropriate. The more descriptive term is "progressive", one has to counter it with the word "Conservative", and not Republican. You will find, as far as political parties go, the Libertarians are the most "conservative' in the classical sense, and also the most "liberal", in the classical sense, but not the most progressive. Marriage does not become more free, or more acceptable simply because it is sanctioned by government.... One might respectfully suggest that all marriage (and all individuals) becomes more free when it is separated, as much as is possible, from the intrusiveness, of government. For, until government can regulate every possible combination of persons into regulated acceptance, there will always be some one, some group, some individual left out in the cold
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CPL Geoffrey A. Pfister Sr - Homosexuality occurs in almost all species. The only ones bothered by it are a subset of homosapiens. Marriage is a civil matter. Hence the marriage license is issued by the state. Choosing to have the ceremony done in a church is a personal matter. Therefore the Supreme Court did not overstep authority by ruling on the matter. As for biblical law, that is a bunch of fables stolen from other cultures by by violent bronze age illiterate savages who didn't know where the sun went at night. Lastly, no-one is infringing your rights to practice your beliefs in any way. If you don't want to marry another guy, no-one is forcing you to do so. You can practice your religion in peace and preferably in quiet.
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CPL Geoffrey A. Pfister Sr - I did not bring in religion, you did.. but since you did. Marriage is a civil matter. You bring up things like since they cannot reproduce, they can't have the title "marriage". If that is a baseline, no people that cannot reproduce should be able to marry.... and of course that is absolute nonsense since Marriage is a civil matter. How you have issues with two women marry, but does not object when a satanist marries an atheist - if they are of different sex. Now that is the big flaw in your theory.
Marriage is a civil matter.
Marriage is a civil matter.
Marriage is a civil matter.
Marriage is a civil matter.
Marriage is a civil matter.
Marriage is a civil matter.
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It is case-by-case because each of us has free will and will have to give account for what we did as an individual.
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The short answer is that the younger generation has grown up learning their morals, or lack there of, from TV and the internet and most probably grew up in households with two working parents or one parent working enough for two, so there were likely fewer values instilled.
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Education from entry into school all thru college has become more liberal. Conservatism in the education arena is frowned on. Political Correctness is taught, The Bible is not unless your children are sent to a private school that believes in a religious theology. Openness by the gay community is pushed more and more--it has always been there but stood in the shadows. I was a 1st Sgt in the mid 70's until I retired in 81 and I had gays in several of my units. Long as they did their jobs and did not cause conflict I had no problem with it. Their off time was theirs. Today they want special privileges as do the other nationalities ( special head gear, beards, etc) The military is not an open for discussion, I want it my way orginization. You are told what is expected of you prior to entry into the military and if you cannot comply then don't hold up you right hand and take the oath. God be with the military.
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I think you muss the point. Its not the some people are against change. Change we know is inevitable. What they are against is forced change that happens because someone orders it against the thinking of the vast majority. When 3% of a population are given special rights, when 1% hold sway over 99% because of a political ideology, that's wrong. Given time and critical thinking and concise valid argument change happen. When that change is forced on a majority because of dome misguided belief that its the onlyvway change will happen. That's when people resist. As we gave seen since Jan 20, we are no longer a country of laws. Oh we have them, but when they are ignored because it doesn't fit a progressive narrative or it upsets someone idea of fairness, we all lose. We are a constitutional republic and for the lastv30 years laws have beenbignored and as suchnour constitution guarntees have been eroded. Our bill of rights are being taught and talked about as something derived from government instead of right that our government are supposed to protect for us. If you cannot understand thatbyour oath is to protect IR country and constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic then you need research and history lessons. Why would the founders have included domestic enemies? Easy! They knew that there would be those who would attempt to subvert our country udingbour government and their own interpretation of what it says. No people sent against change what they're against is chsnge that is driven by an elite few at the expense of the rule of law, constitutional protects, and common sense. Demagoguery and lies and musical activism is the only way change is happening now strictly because there is no logical arguments the minority can make. Disregarding the plain meaning of laws, ignoring the congressional record, and court intrusion is the only way that things are negated. Want to see the dustruction ofnour country from within? Watch what us going on stvthe moment and ask yourself how can a court ignore the plain language if a law that gas already been ruled constitutional? How can liberal progressive defend violence against other because they're afraid if what that person will say? How can those who say they are tolerant destroy property, attack police, call for assassinations, and the violent overthrow of the government ever have any credibility when they riot and turn to violence when they dont get there way.
When a child I did childish things, now as an adult I put childish things behind me!
When a child I did childish things, now as an adult I put childish things behind me!
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Because it's hard to change the way you are raised. People who were born 50 or whatever years ago grew up in a period where gays weren't widely accepted or interracial couples weren't, it's hard to change the mindset you develop as a young child. Now, though, things are different. Gay couples and interracial couples are accepted and are common in society. You see them portrayed on tv as normal which is what it should be.
Kids today are coming into the world and seeing what is normal and that's all of these new thoughts and feelings that we have. People who were born years ago are still remembering the way they were raised. Some learn to understand and accept the way things change, others don't.
Kids today are coming into the world and seeing what is normal and that's all of these new thoughts and feelings that we have. People who were born years ago are still remembering the way they were raised. Some learn to understand and accept the way things change, others don't.
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CPL Joseph Montgonery
But you said it yourself. They see it on TV as normal! Why? We're talking less than 3% of the whole population (its only 4% in San Franisco) how can you equate that with normalcy? Its not my up bringing. Yes imn56 yrs old but I was a liberal at one time. Thenni opened my eyes to the world and grew up. My mother, who is 77, was a staunch Democrat until her early 30s when she took an interest in what was actually going on. So you paint me with a wide brush and make assumptions. That's OK. Yourevyoung and you, too, will grow and change. Youllneven do what most if us did. Think back on our younger years and think....WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!
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CPL Joseph Montgonery - Well I apologize but I'm gonna have to disagree here. The original question is why are the current generation of kids more liberal and I explained why. I also think that it's funny that you are telling me I'm going to grow up and regret my choices? Because I think that being gay isn't something to be ashamed of?
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CPL Joseph Montgonery
PFC (Join to see) - I didn't say anything about being ashamed. What I said was that as people grow and mature the way they think changes. I don't care what a persons lifestyle is. That's their business. what I have business is when government and the far left decide to push it on a majority without regard to rights. We are guaranteed life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If that makes you happy fine. I haven't a problem but if my upbringing doesn't allow me to accepting it as mainstream that is my right. I can accept whatever you do with no problem but the minute you trample my rights it's wrong!
What is happening now is the vast majority is being discriminated against because a vocal minority are forcing an agenda that is counter to what most believe. As ppl get older they tend to think more expansive while the younger generation think more hedonistic. What makes them happy or pleases them. It more about pleasure than community. As we grow older we become more worried about the world at large and see beyond ourselves. It's just the way it happens. I have many friends who are gay so saying I somehow say you should feel ashamed and wrong. I don't care what you, or ty, do as adults but I don't have to rush over it and bend over backwards to make you feel good. As unsaid you have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You dont however have the right NOT to be offended nor the right to FORCE your choices on others. Societal norms are that which the majority believe. Just like you can't tax your way to prosperity you also can't dictate changes to social thinking without a vast majority having their lives and rights trampled. As an American vet I may not like what you say or do but I will defend to the death your right to do so. Question is, WILL YOU DO THE SAME FOR ME? The answer I've seen so far is NO! Seems the rights you say you want to enjoy you want to deny me and others. When you can delete the emotion from the political garbage, when you can say that you may not like what I believe it say but will defend my right to do so to the death, THEN you'll truly understand what it only gets oath means but also why as we get older we become more conservative. I'll be the first to defend your right to live as you wish but I will also be the first to confront you, and even fight you, when you insist that I have to make you feel good about it and accepting as normal. See that's where the separation really is. Not the personal note but when you want public recognition and praise for it. Just make you see discrimination in a gay relationship I seeing also in my marriage. My wife and I we it daily because I am 25 years older than her and it isn't normal. We don't care what others think more conservative flaunt it and want to be treated as normal and mainstream. It's our relationship and the population at larges approval is needed. It's our lives and what we have is normal for us. No one has to validate our choice. We did that on our own.
What is happening now is the vast majority is being discriminated against because a vocal minority are forcing an agenda that is counter to what most believe. As ppl get older they tend to think more expansive while the younger generation think more hedonistic. What makes them happy or pleases them. It more about pleasure than community. As we grow older we become more worried about the world at large and see beyond ourselves. It's just the way it happens. I have many friends who are gay so saying I somehow say you should feel ashamed and wrong. I don't care what you, or ty, do as adults but I don't have to rush over it and bend over backwards to make you feel good. As unsaid you have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You dont however have the right NOT to be offended nor the right to FORCE your choices on others. Societal norms are that which the majority believe. Just like you can't tax your way to prosperity you also can't dictate changes to social thinking without a vast majority having their lives and rights trampled. As an American vet I may not like what you say or do but I will defend to the death your right to do so. Question is, WILL YOU DO THE SAME FOR ME? The answer I've seen so far is NO! Seems the rights you say you want to enjoy you want to deny me and others. When you can delete the emotion from the political garbage, when you can say that you may not like what I believe it say but will defend my right to do so to the death, THEN you'll truly understand what it only gets oath means but also why as we get older we become more conservative. I'll be the first to defend your right to live as you wish but I will also be the first to confront you, and even fight you, when you insist that I have to make you feel good about it and accepting as normal. See that's where the separation really is. Not the personal note but when you want public recognition and praise for it. Just make you see discrimination in a gay relationship I seeing also in my marriage. My wife and I we it daily because I am 25 years older than her and it isn't normal. We don't care what others think more conservative flaunt it and want to be treated as normal and mainstream. It's our relationship and the population at larges approval is needed. It's our lives and what we have is normal for us. No one has to validate our choice. We did that on our own.
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older generations are also fearful of the newer things they don't understand.
of course wisdom is essential, but it's not a complete replacement for intellect and research
of course wisdom is essential, but it's not a complete replacement for intellect and research
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It's about experience. Seeing and knowing what policies work and which ones don't, based on experiencing the long-term results, including the 2nd and 3rd order effects. Everything has been tried before, so "progress" and "progressive" are often just labels placed on liberal policies which have been enacted in the past, in other places. Interracial is not new. LGBT is not new. It's all outdated. The newest, most progressive concept is a large democratic republic with separation of powers and limits to government authority defined by a constitution. We're seeing if this one will work.
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