Posted on May 30, 2015

Why doesn't the APFT have provisions for injuries incurred during the test?
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If you are taking an APFT, and roll your ankle during the run, and as a result you run slower to the finish line and fail, should this still count as a failure? I read Chapter 14 of FM 21-20 and the only mention of injuries I could find was that the injury could be annotated in comments box. I feel as thought in this scenario, the APFT test should not be counted against the injured soldier. What are your thoughts?
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I commend you on doing research but that's the wrong FM. It's FM 7-22 that is the new PRT Manuel. If you get legitimately injured and it's to such an extent it keeps you from passing then I don't think it should count. I also think it's a leadership decision. If you have good leadership that takes good care of its people then they usually do you a solid and understand the circumstances. Shit happens.

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Lol @PRT in general
Imagine for a minute that this was possible. How many people do you think would "roll" their ankle as soon as they realize they won't make time on a run? How many would suddenly have "shoulder pain" on the push-ups and "lower back pain" on the setups? Then the overload on the medical system as they all go to sick call to try to prove their fake injuries.
The regs are written in such a way as to grant commanders a great deal of leeway in instances where regs don't provide exactly instructions.
The regs are written in such a way as to grant commanders a great deal of leeway in instances where regs don't provide exactly instructions.
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SFC it is quite easy to roll an ankle also they give us PAs and free medical to determine weather or not someone is faking I rolled an ankle the first think my Nco thought was I was faking it all comes down to knowing your soldier how the hell could I fake that injury look at my ankle
I can sympathize with a true injury but the way that APFTs are conducted these days I don't see how it would occur. I will state something that may seem insensitive, I have taken PT test after 24 hour duty because of poor planning and also under the weather but I have always pride myself with being able to pass an APFT at any moment. My mantra, the more I sweat in training, the less I will bleed in battle. I tackle every APFT as if I am aiming for the extended scale that way even if I was under duress I would never drop to the 60 percent line.
They can count it as a diagnostic but that is up to your chain of command. Also if you were injured during and apft that made you fail they might take that into consideration but once again that is up to your chain of command
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"legally" cannot change what it is. but I see your point and say, hooah. take care of the troops. give them the benefit of the doubt.
I'll echo SSG Derrick L. Lewis on that...great question.
Honestly, there should be a provision for that in the FM, but to my knowledge, there is not. I have seen good soldiers that regularly get 270- 300 on the APFT fail because they got hurt during. Next thing you know, they're out with the fatties doing special population PT in the afternoon.
Honestly, there should be a provision for that in the FM, but to my knowledge, there is not. I have seen good soldiers that regularly get 270- 300 on the APFT fail because they got hurt during. Next thing you know, they're out with the fatties doing special population PT in the afternoon.
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It's awesome how Soldiers have a skewed definition of "fatty." I've always been "fat" - ~200 pounds at 5'10" - needing to get taped.
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What I mean are those so overweight that it is impossible to actually pass the APFT or even perform your job. I have guys in my unit that are stellar, but have to get taped every time.
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I knew what you meant, SSG Walker. It was a joke but not directed toward your statement.
If injured during APFT, then allow the soldier to go to a real sick, and then when healed, retest him or her.
I once scored a 259 (100PU/100SU). I normally out ran the platoon but failed my run. My LT came up and asked if I was feeling ok just as I started to vomit. He had the 1SG not but me on extra PT and just retake the test in a few weeks.
Based on the circumstances and proctor, its just the time completed, you should get an opportunity. on the next pt test offer.
No not in the least bit. Then you would have guys claiming an injury while on the run. You either run through it or you take the fail and retake it.
I agree with those saying that the regulations leave plenty of room for Commanders to have discretion. If malingering is a big issue, it is just as easy to have the Soldier undergo a medical exam immediately and if the Soldier is found to be in good enough condition, they should be administered another PT test within a reasonable amount of time. If they are found to have a serious but recoverable injury, then they should be given a profile and another chance after they have healed. This is definitely an art vs science of command question, but a good one.
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