Posted on Oct 31, 2014
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The day I turned my chevrons in for gold bars I noticed something. All the officers I've ever seen never wore marksmanship badges in dress uniforms. I just assumed they were unauthorized for officers and removed it voluntarily. I honestly never desired to wear the badge (probably because I was only ever a sharpshooter), but I haven't found any documentation specifically preventing officers from wearing them. Do you think officers should wear them?
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So I do agree with the COL Jason Smallfield. We as officers should led from the front and are expected to do so. The actions of a good leader are reflected by the quality of their followers. Wearing badges and pursuing awards doesn't make you a better leader.
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CW4 Edmund Parowski
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Then let's explain all the Airborne Wings on those who have no intention of every being in a true airborne unit, all the Ranger tabs on those who will never be in a Ranger unit, all the Bronze Stars (with snowflake device for having never left air conditioning) awarded for battalion staff positions, ...shall I go on?
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You can go on all you would like Chief my answer will stay the same. In the Amry your ORB tells your story. In some units you having a tab makes you in the "in" crowd. It doesn't make you a better leader. Having Hooah badges that you don't use is a waste of the army's time and a waste of that individuals time.
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Unless it does make you a more technically proficient leader in your position such as air assault or pathfinder.
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CW4 Edmund Parowski
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I believe that actually was my point. The trouble is the recent examples for today's officers. I haven't seen a general with less than eight rows of ribbons and numerous shiny badges. I also once saw a General wearing sixteen stars: four on each collar, four on his helmet, and four down the front of his armored vest. Yup, got it: You're a General. In contrast, there is a portrait of Eisenhower painted after D-Day, the Victory in Europe, and a stint as Army Chief of Staff wearing two rows of ribbons. One has to look carefully to see the circle of five stars on his shoulder. Seems as if the volume of festoons is in inverse proportion to wars actually won.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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A year later: The rule of Common Sense!
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COL Keith Geiger
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No. Its tradition not to wear them.
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When I came in in 1977, we were told in the basic course that officers don't wear qualification badges because all officers are expected to be qualified with their weapon. In ROTC before that none of our officer cadre wore them either. Even when Infantry Branch Assignment officers at MILPERCEN (I think it's HRC now, but not sure) reviewed your photo for promotion boards, they never said to put a qualification badge on. i never saw a single Army officer in 22 years wear one.
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1SG Terrence Valenti
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It is a qualification Badge is it not? All soldiers regardless of rank should be allowed to wear qualification badges...if they have earned them.
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LTC Matthew Robinson
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It is a culture thing, not a regulatory thing. When I was enlisted I always wore mine and sported a mustache periodically. As an officer, I never wore mine, but still sported a mustache periodically. I occasionally ran afoul of a curmudgeonly CSM or SGM; however, nothing that impeded my ability to lead soldiers.
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CW4 Tim Claus
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Got rid of the mustache for two reasons; one the interpretation of the reg changed where the definition of 'corner of the mouth' changed so we all looked like Hitler, and as a CWO, it was not worth the hassle keeping up with, had to many other fish to fry.
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SFC Don Ward
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It's a confidence issue. What Troop would feel confident of an officer with a BOLO badge for marksmanship? Would you want a commander that it was evident couldn't fire his weapon??
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PVT Paul Vary
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I would ask questions of the chain of command to see if there are any regs against the wearing of the marksman medal
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LTC Tom Jones
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Drafted and trained in tanks (M-48's) at Fort Knox; D-3-1 beginning in the late summer of '67. First Saturday morning inspection was performed by our Brigade Commander whose Expert Badge displayed a "ladder" which extended from this khaki shirt pocket to his belt. Granted, he was not a tall man but this guy could obviously get it done with everything from the Bayonet to the M-60 Main Battle Tank or, at least, that's the impression we all had.
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CPL James Mellar
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I think an officer is not only there to lead, but also to inspire confidence in his or her enlisted soldiers, and showing capabilities lesser than one's soldiers could undercut that inspiration. Let's just say the officer was proficient in all of his marksmanship skills, should he wear those medals and make other officers look bad? I think not. We are a military that works as a team; sure, we advance on individual ability, but we won't retreat by undercutting other's shortcomings.
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