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Maybe I am missed informed but when I was a DS we had military couples each getting BAH how is this even possible when both reside within the same domicile? I understand if the couples are separated because of duty stations but when they both are station together how is this fair? Isn't this a waste? Do they get more house because they are both in the service?
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It's part of the compensation package.
It's to not provide a disincentive to marriage.
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So then my question would be...if you have 2 Soldiers who are getting married both in which get BAH w/dep rate, because they have children from pervious relationship. If they got married would they both still claim BAH since both parents claim their own children on their taxes?
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Dual military don't get to claim BAH twice. Each service member gets to claim BAH at the without dependent rate, just as if they were living separately and not married.
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I was dual military with a Navy Nurse, before the children we both received BAQ at the single rate, when children started being born she began getting paid the Dependent rate (by our choice because she was an officer) and I continued to receive without dependents, it was very profitable for us. We the move to base housing and because of her rank we lived in officer housing. If only one of us would have had to claim for it we would have had her do so!
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Fact checking you Leatherneck. Actually, after your kids arrived, her receiving the dependent BAH rate was because she was senior in rank to you, not because you chose to do it that way. When you moved into base housing, you both lost your BAH because you were in govt quarters.
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Absolutely correct MGySgt
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SSgt Tim Ricci - Semper Fi, SSgt! P.S. Navy girls are awesome wives! I am married to one too, LOL.
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MGySgt (Join to see) - Yes they are!
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For those who think BAH is not an entitlement.....

According to the DOD FY2016 Budget Request to Congress "The foundation of military pay is Regular Military Compensation (RMC). EVERY member receives the following pay or in-kind ENTITLEMENT: Base Pay, BAH, and BAS"

Research is always better than speculation:
http://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/Documents/defbudget/fy2016/FY2016_Budget_Request_Overview_Book.pdf
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All this talk of eligibility, just waite to see what happens when the same sex marrages file for their dule BHA..
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I do believe that BAH is an allowance and not an entitlement. That means it can be removed or reduced as required (thus the diff).

It is a perk to receive it twice. I brought this up last week at work at got all sorts of arguments for and against the double dip. Of course, those who are all for it are dual-military. Those who are opposed to it are everyone else and the contractors that work here.

The question truly should be what was the underlying intent when the regulations spelled out that dual military with children will receive full BAH from one and diff from the other. The answer probably lies in the past when having a family to support garnered extra pay. Today, not so much.
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Again, BAH is not pay, its an allowance. There are reasons for this distinction. The military has to have some flexibility when employing the largest workforce in the country. You can count on one thing: basic pay. The rest changes based upon circumstance. The more people become educated on the LES, the more they understand.
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BAH is part of a compensation package.
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I commented a bit more on this on a post later on where I disagree with the original post. I even quote where she says it is an element of compensation which I don't agree with. Here it is :
I disagree with the basic premise of her conversation: " Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) is a key element of military compensation needed to keep pace with civilian worker salaries," Civilian pay is no longer dependent on whether or not you have a family to support. If you don't believe me, ask someone to try to get a raise based upon the fact that they just had a new kid and not on the basis of their performance.

We need to look at this critically and not emotionally. We should revamp BAH because we need to look at the real reason it exists: is it part of the 1950s mentality that the married man provides and needs more for the family or can we just assume that everyone of the same grade receive the same pay regardless of marital status and get out of the housing business altogether.
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Not that the Senate is the best example of justice in the world but someone else thinks it is not right.

As for the divorced sailor, I see where she is coming from and perhaps Congress needs to mandate that only Base Pay may be allowed to be figured into alimony/palimony and child support.

http://www.stripes.com/opinion/dual-service-couples-may-see-housing-allowance-cut-under-senate-plan-1.349209
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I disagree with the basic premise of her conversation: " Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) is a key element of military compensation needed to keep pace with civilian worker salaries," Civilian pay is no longer dependent on whether or not you have a family to support. If you don't believe me, ask someone to try to get a raise based upon the fact that they just had a new kid and not on the basis of their performance.

We need to look at this critically and not emotionally. We should revamp BAH because we need to look at the real reason it exists: is it part of the 1950s mentality that the married man provides and needs more for the family or can we just assume that everyone of the same grade receive the same pay regardless of marital status and get out of the housing business altogether.
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