Posted on Apr 2, 2020
Why has it taken so long for the U.S. to realize that a national Lockdown is necessary to prevent the spread of Covid-19?
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China, after the virus leak, completely locked down Wuhan and quarantined the city. Beijing and Shanghai reported no cases of Covid-19. India also placed the Nation under a three-week curfew to prevent the spread of Covid-19 and the number of cases in India are way less than any European country or the United States. Couldn't the U.S. follow these examples to save lives?
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Beijing asserts and so do N. Korea and India. Selective coverage and no way to corroborate these claims. Remember, India and China are densely populated areas. I do not buy it, sorry. And by lockdown, what does that mean? Starve. Think, okay?
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
I am based in India Larry. I am willing and able to answer every one of your questions concerning India from Ground Zero. Indeed; some media outlets are selective in their coverage and others are politically biased, but isn't this the same in the U.S.? I keenly await your questions concerning Covid-19 in India. China and the DPRK can be selective in their coverage by media because these are communist countries. Waiting Larry. Thanks.
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Why has it taken so long? Simple!
1. I'm a (insert political affiliation of your choice here) and the media that my ( ) party judges as "truthful" has not told me to lockdown.
2. I'm American and I get all of my news from facebook, twitter, or my favorite celebrity and none of them have said for me to panic.
3. Deaths in other countries? Well damn it, we're America damn it and thats why they're dying. Cuz they need American freedom.
4. Corona? Isn't that a Mexican beer? See! I told you we need a wall between us and Mexico!
1. I'm a (insert political affiliation of your choice here) and the media that my ( ) party judges as "truthful" has not told me to lockdown.
2. I'm American and I get all of my news from facebook, twitter, or my favorite celebrity and none of them have said for me to panic.
3. Deaths in other countries? Well damn it, we're America damn it and thats why they're dying. Cuz they need American freedom.
4. Corona? Isn't that a Mexican beer? See! I told you we need a wall between us and Mexico!
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PO3 Donald Murphy
Lo siento, no tienes sentido del humor. Apuesto a que pensaste que estaba siendo racista. Lo siento chico, soy Hispana (mamá Mexicana).
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Part of the issue is clarity and honest reporting. If you think that China has completely squashed this because their Government regulated and filtered news sources say so I would have to respectfully disagree. They are all about controlling the narrative. Just like Iran and North Korea. NK expects everyone to believe they just sidestepped COV19 completely? Yeah OK. I lived in China while on Embassy Duty and they always control what the public opinion and public perception is. Personally I don't see how tanking the economy by 100% mandatory lockdown is a good thing. I agree that social distancing is key and cancelling major events and gatherings is also good. But cops stomping the streets and detaining or ticketing people for being out there house is a bit much.
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Because you have idiots like this guy!!
https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/editorials/article241688301.html
https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/editorials/article241688301.html
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I've read Trump floated the idea last weak when he was discussing placing residents of New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut under a quarantine...that's when all hell broke loose. Seems to be some confusion on whether he has the authority.
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Do you think the people would stand for their freedoms being stopped like that? Especially during this ridiculous era of division in the nation where every decision is a wrong decision, racist, sexist, this-ist and that-ist.
I agree they should have just shut it down, but the backlash would be insane, and even now with what has been done - do you think people would listen? The "honor system" is a joke because we are entitled Americans. Lockdown in 330,000,000 people is impossible to enforce.
I agree they should have just shut it down, but the backlash would be insane, and even now with what has been done - do you think people would listen? The "honor system" is a joke because we are entitled Americans. Lockdown in 330,000,000 people is impossible to enforce.
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I think all political leaders have a strong reluctance to immediately shut down everything. Once the warning signs become clear, they will do the right thing. Problem is, once those warning signs become clear, it's often too little, too late. You can see that occurring in many locations around the country, at the city level, at the state level, and at the federal level.
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No I don't believe it can. I ask you what would a complete lock down for say a month do to the small businesses, to the workers, to the people that is just barely hanging on ?
I know most responses will be the government will help them and how has the government helped them so far? Through small business loans they have to pay back and stimulus. These businesses will be in a bind for years trying to pay back these loans. The stimulus helps for about two or three weeks for most people.
Now the government helps the big business more then the small wonder why that is.
Now what happens to the government if say it does give out 5 trillion dollars to take care of this lock down? The USA is so far in debt now it can't pay it back.
I know most responses will be the government will help them and how has the government helped them so far? Through small business loans they have to pay back and stimulus. These businesses will be in a bind for years trying to pay back these loans. The stimulus helps for about two or three weeks for most people.
Now the government helps the big business more then the small wonder why that is.
Now what happens to the government if say it does give out 5 trillion dollars to take care of this lock down? The USA is so far in debt now it can't pay it back.
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SPC Curtis Underwood
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana - Because the government gives money away to other nations like it grows on trees and then spends it like there is no tomorrow. Federal government has gotten to big with people like congressman giving themselves raises and removing themselves from the obligations they put on the people. That is why.
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SPC Curtis Underwood
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana - This may be accurate but after they completely lift the lockdown this mess will start over again. The virus even if your immune system is high enough to fight it off you still get it and if you get it you can spread it. The virus also mutates. It has not mutated yet except to increase in being more Highly infectious. But it will like the flu mutate to stronger and more deadly versions. The bad thing is will the vaccines come fast enough to keep up with the mutations when they start. The flu vaccines which were much easier to make barely did.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
SPC Curtis Underwood, India went into a three month complete lockdown and most businesses survived, except for a few that were already in the red.
Government gave nothing, except to pass law disallowing businesses from terminating jobs and pay of employees during lockdown. Many businesses, small businesses, reduced payroll in order to sustain through the lockdown and employees stood with Management. Labor was transported to their villages, till the lockdown period ended. Many laborers have been hired by the Border Roads Organization (BRO) to upgrade and construct roads and bridges along the LAC and LoC, as well as in neighboring states, and allied nations. BRO is a government organization under the Union Ministry of Defense. 11,000 laborers were contracted in initial rounds of hiring, post lockdown.
Government gave nothing, except to pass law disallowing businesses from terminating jobs and pay of employees during lockdown. Many businesses, small businesses, reduced payroll in order to sustain through the lockdown and employees stood with Management. Labor was transported to their villages, till the lockdown period ended. Many laborers have been hired by the Border Roads Organization (BRO) to upgrade and construct roads and bridges along the LAC and LoC, as well as in neighboring states, and allied nations. BRO is a government organization under the Union Ministry of Defense. 11,000 laborers were contracted in initial rounds of hiring, post lockdown.
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One of the most difficult things to do in my opinion, is to convince people to accept a change in their lives. Now, being ex-military, I had to learn to wear a gas mask when it was only an exercise, to work long shifts with minimum amounts of rest, so adjusting to the situation of Covid-19 was kind of second nature. But I know many people demanding that their rights to live the way they wish without any concern for how if may impact themselves or others. Many think this virus is a joke, mainly because it has not hit inside their house so to speak. I have a daughter and a sister working in the medical arena, and it is no joke. I fear for them, I also miss visiting with them because they want to protect me as well. But I have one friend, a very dear friend, very upset because it was suggested that groups should be kept to around ten people. The government was stepping on his rights he felt. I told him that his friendship was important to me, as we have known each other for more than 30 years. But because he felt I was on the wrong side, he has actually refrained stopped communicating with me. Now mind you, he does wear a mask he said, but only because he want to, not because the government told him to. I said you wear it because life is important to you as it is to most of us. I personally think he wanted a fight because I didn't reject the information provided by the powers that be. But I have a five year old, great granddaughter demanding I dance with her. I promised her I would at her wedding, so I have a lot to live for.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
Wearing masks, maintenance of proper hygiene and keeping a distance of do guz or two yards apart is extremely difficult for some people and these personalities become the carriers of the virus spreading it around the Country. Thanks.
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SPC Curtis Underwood
I agree with you on this Covid-19 and the rules it has caused to be placed on us. But these rules are considered against what the constitution is about by most people. Oh I understand about it being a medical issue and if it is used for a short term solution then it is within the constitution. But what a lot of the population is concerned with is this becoming a permanent solution. If it becomes permanent then it is against the constitution because it restricts gatherings that is allowed under the constitution.
Vaccines is in the long term a partial solution but they will not stop the virus. This virus will always be here. The reason is vaccines do not prevent you from getting the virus and spreading it. Vaccines does make your immune system stronger so it can fight off the virus but you do have the virus.
So what I am seeing is this, eventually everyone will have the virus because the virus mutates and becomes more infectious. The virus will not be stopped until it can no longer spread. If you get the virus and even if your immune system successfully fights it off you still will be able to spread it to others that are vaccinated.
So everyone will eventually get this virus unless someone develops a vaccine that not only kills this virus but also causes it to mutate in a way that becomes noninfectious. But i do not see this happening.
As to a lockdown that would stop it for a little while but it would not stop it completely because if the virus is stopped cold in say one country and someone either comes into that country or travels and comes back they could bring it back and start the mess all over.
Vaccines is in the long term a partial solution but they will not stop the virus. This virus will always be here. The reason is vaccines do not prevent you from getting the virus and spreading it. Vaccines does make your immune system stronger so it can fight off the virus but you do have the virus.
So what I am seeing is this, eventually everyone will have the virus because the virus mutates and becomes more infectious. The virus will not be stopped until it can no longer spread. If you get the virus and even if your immune system successfully fights it off you still will be able to spread it to others that are vaccinated.
So everyone will eventually get this virus unless someone develops a vaccine that not only kills this virus but also causes it to mutate in a way that becomes noninfectious. But i do not see this happening.
As to a lockdown that would stop it for a little while but it would not stop it completely because if the virus is stopped cold in say one country and someone either comes into that country or travels and comes back they could bring it back and start the mess all over.
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