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This is for all of us, but I give one stark example why we all need to heed warnings like this...because we have a duty to carry and protect our own, and how can we do that if we do not know. I personally have two 9mm and primarily because of carry capacity and cheapness and availability of ammo. State your reasons for owning a 9mm....or reasons why you do not.
Why one cop now carries 145 rounds of ammo on the job ...
Lastly, I know there are still those of you reading this and about to blow a top because you can't believe that .45 is somehow not a "man stopper" ...
I am about to prove to you scientifically that the 9mm is just as effective as the .45 with today's modern ammo, but you'll want to reply with what you know to be true, have seen, or "real world experience" ...
Before you do that, you should know about Police Sergeant Timothy Gramin ...
Sergeant Gramin used to carry 47 rounds of .45 ammunition while on duty. That was before he got in a gunfight with an attacker who would not go down. The police officer shot the man 14 times with .45-cal. ammunition - six of those hits in supposedly fatal locations.
The final three shots that the police officer fired were into the suspects head — one through each side of his mouth and one through the top of his skull into his brain.
In case you missed that, the officer shot the man 11 times with .45 and then 3 more times in the HEAD before the guy finally stopped fighting.
And lest you try to convince yourself that the attacker was drugged up, to quote the report, "Remarkably, the gunman was still showing vital signs when EMS arrived. Sheer determination, it seemed, kept him going, for no evidence of drugs or alcohol was found in his system."
The full story can be found here on PoliceOne.com. But the point is that yes, even the .45 caliber will not guarantee you a "one shot stop".
Oh, and by the way, Sergeant Gramins now carries a 9mm on the job ...
" ... Now unfailingly he goes to work carrying 145 handgun rounds, all 9 mm. These include three extra 17-round magazines for his primary sidearm (currently a Glock 17), plus two 33-round mags tucked in his vest, as well as the backup gun [Glock 26]"
If you are still convinced that your .45 is better, then there's nothing I can say now that will convince you otherwise, so let's just get to the list (which includes .45 anyways) ...
Why one cop now carries 145 rounds of ammo on the job ...
Lastly, I know there are still those of you reading this and about to blow a top because you can't believe that .45 is somehow not a "man stopper" ...
I am about to prove to you scientifically that the 9mm is just as effective as the .45 with today's modern ammo, but you'll want to reply with what you know to be true, have seen, or "real world experience" ...
Before you do that, you should know about Police Sergeant Timothy Gramin ...
Sergeant Gramin used to carry 47 rounds of .45 ammunition while on duty. That was before he got in a gunfight with an attacker who would not go down. The police officer shot the man 14 times with .45-cal. ammunition - six of those hits in supposedly fatal locations.
The final three shots that the police officer fired were into the suspects head — one through each side of his mouth and one through the top of his skull into his brain.
In case you missed that, the officer shot the man 11 times with .45 and then 3 more times in the HEAD before the guy finally stopped fighting.
And lest you try to convince yourself that the attacker was drugged up, to quote the report, "Remarkably, the gunman was still showing vital signs when EMS arrived. Sheer determination, it seemed, kept him going, for no evidence of drugs or alcohol was found in his system."
The full story can be found here on PoliceOne.com. But the point is that yes, even the .45 caliber will not guarantee you a "one shot stop".
Oh, and by the way, Sergeant Gramins now carries a 9mm on the job ...
" ... Now unfailingly he goes to work carrying 145 handgun rounds, all 9 mm. These include three extra 17-round magazines for his primary sidearm (currently a Glock 17), plus two 33-round mags tucked in his vest, as well as the backup gun [Glock 26]"
If you are still convinced that your .45 is better, then there's nothing I can say now that will convince you otherwise, so let's just get to the list (which includes .45 anyways) ...
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I think first and foremost is the ability to control the weapon. If you can't re-engage quickly after the first shot and everyone after that, it doesn't matter the caliber of the weapon. Pick a caliber you can control on a platform that fits you (Ruger, Glock, S&W, etc) and practice, practice, practice. If you can't put lead "on target" it doesn't really matter what you are carrying.
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Wise words...and don't use a small caliber weapon on a large caliber man....lol.
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Haha! I'm just messin y'all. To each his own. Personally, I carry the .45 because they don't make a .46...
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My point: open yourself to possibilities. All highly recommended rounds are included in this post. So if there is not convincing you...share your load and what ammo you prefer
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That was a short discussion (HaHa). The FBI put out a "memo" a few months/year ago that "their" findings were the 9mm served the better cause for law enforcement and everyone wants to jump on board. Personally most of my pistols are .40 cal. Just a preference I like with Glock.
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But the 10mm has more energy at 100 meters than a .45 has at the muzzle. So the 10mm is like a .45, but for grown ups
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The most important question is, "Which caliber am I most likely to hit the target with?" Followed closely by "Which caliber am I most likely to hit the target center mass/kill zone?" The only other question is a matter of rounds you need to answer the question above?
For those who love their .45 or .40s, there really isn't anything you can say or need to say, if that is 'their' weapon, be safe and I hope you never need to use your weapon, but if you do...I hope you are the one telling the story when it is all said and done
For those who love their .45 or .40s, there really isn't anything you can say or need to say, if that is 'their' weapon, be safe and I hope you never need to use your weapon, but if you do...I hope you are the one telling the story when it is all said and done
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.22 is still the most commonly used weapon and kills the most on the street. So, caliber has little to do with it.
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