Posted on Jun 18, 2015
Why is an E5 Sergeant being treated like a junior enlisted?
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Ive noticed and been apart of the despair that treats Sergeants like junior enlisted. I understand that these are junior NCO's but they are NCO's in the end and have earned the rank. Vehicle searches (for E5 and below), packing layouts (E5 and below), having to buddy up to go to the px (or needing an E6 or higher to go with) etc....Im not oppose to any of this stuff but I just feel like when I was at that rank I earned the respect and confidence of my leadership and the army as a whole.
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Can't speak for anyone else but I always put out for team leaders and below to lay out. Reason being was that I wanted Squad Leaders free to be checking the troops equipment and the PSGs free to be looking at uniformity and big picture stuff. I never liked bag dumps because it was easy to miss things, a uniform layout allowed me to at a glance see that Tooper x in 3rd squad 2nd PLT was missing a pair of socks and ask the PSG and SQD LDR what they were doing about it. It was never a slight on the SGTs and if the SQD LDR was a SGT they didn't lay out.
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Unfortunately, times and mindsets change. Take a look at the demographics breakdown of what rank is committing the most SHARP incidents? If that's one area (sexual abuse).....what other areas are suspect to require a need for amp'd scrutiny? Tough paradigm.... not all make the break until they are more seasons SGTs, and by that point....they're knocking on the door for SSG.
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I hear you SSG Russell, it's like they want you to be Senior enlisted when taking on the roles of Squad Leader or NCOIC of Training room etc etc...So it's a double standard being said that needs to be addressed.
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i believe these kind of things depends on the unit you are at. Never happened to me. I am a Jr. NCO not a Jr. Enlisted. E-5 and below for layout is a little exaggerated. If you earned the rank, you should be responsible enough to take care of your own gears. Maybe this particular unit had an incident with an E-5 or various which made the leadership take action to prevent things from happening again.
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They are NCO's however they are still Jr NCO's. Most team leaders are CPL or SGT, leading by example for your team and ensuring their shit is straight is still an important job. Don't take it as you are being treated Badly..... As a PSG I used my SQD Ldrs, they used their TM Ldrs..... Believe it or not this happens all the way up the rank structure..... Just my 2 cents
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Ok, do not think that you are 'a part' of anything. Learn some proper grammar to be taken seriously.
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Different fields, when I joined the Army it was the year of the NCO. When I pinned on my E5, my MSG came by did the pounding of the rank into the collar bones and said, now let's see you keep it. When it came time for things like inspection, urinalysis I was one of the first to say check me. I knew getting promoted would separate me from all the people I knew in my company that hadn't been promoted yet. But i was the person that they saw every day. Later in my career, I also ran into Officer's that tried to treat me like a brand new soldier to the military, right out of basic. I found out later they were combat Arms officers and I was Admin. So different fields and different levels of respect
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It may be a simple case of acting the roll potraited. When I was in the Regular Army, on the job I portaited myself as a Sgt. Even though I was a specialist. People knew I know my job.
Rank on collar told them otherwise
Rank on collar told them otherwise
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