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CIF is so much better here at Fort Bragg than the ones from AIT and Basic. My question however is they are still issuing us IOTV in UCP is that just because it’s surplus for training purposes? I can’t see the mix of OCP and UCP going over well in the field lol
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Because your IOTV from CIF is for training. When you deploy you'll get the latest and greatest from RFI.
As for the field, I deployed to OIF2 in 2004 with an brand new M16A4 and a mix of DCU and woodland print TA50. You get what the Army has in stock based on where you sit on the priority list. When I was at 1st Group in Okinawa I got issued all the newest Gen3 ruck and body armor in the newest camo. When I arrived at JBLM they issued me a UCP ruck and IOTV that looks like the ones I received brand new when I deployed in 2006.
As for the field, I deployed to OIF2 in 2004 with an brand new M16A4 and a mix of DCU and woodland print TA50. You get what the Army has in stock based on where you sit on the priority list. When I was at 1st Group in Okinawa I got issued all the newest Gen3 ruck and body armor in the newest camo. When I arrived at JBLM they issued me a UCP ruck and IOTV that looks like the ones I received brand new when I deployed in 2006.
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When they made the change of uniform camouflage, they stated that because of cost they will phase out the OCP TA50. If you ever deploy they will issue the new camo pattern for all TA50.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SGT (Join to see) - FYI, turned in my last woodland gear in 2009. Late deployers from Campbell were still being issued in in 2009.
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The original plan was to contract out mobile dye labs to dye the UCP kit coyote tan, but that had also probably gotten too expensive.
The CIF is better at big Army posts. Bragg of course is the flagship of FORSCOM. IET posts issue the bare minimums. Some of this has to do with unit supplemental funding for the draw menus.
The CIF is better at big Army posts. Bragg of course is the flagship of FORSCOM. IET posts issue the bare minimums. Some of this has to do with unit supplemental funding for the draw menus.
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Dang you make this ol' soldier feel old. I retired in 1997 and don't have any idea what IOTV or a UCP is.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
SFC Michael D. Brother IOTV is Improved Outer Tactical Vest ( the body armor that we wear nowadays) and UCP (Universal Camouflage Pattern) which universally didn't work unless you were in a rock quarry or your grandma's old couch (google that picture part there is a great picture on the internet)is hands down the worst fucking camouflage pattern that someone bribed the Army into using from 04 until 1 Oct 2019. The belowpicture is UCP on the left and the new pattern Operational Cammo Pattern (OCP). It is normally refereed to as Multicams but we change something in it and gave it a different name which is the scorpion pattern.
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SFC Michael D.
Thanks for that Sergeant Major. It’s getting harder and harder to keep up. SGM Steve Wettstein
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SGM Steve Wettstein hit it. It also doesn't make sense to just scrap it because in training, those vests are perfectly capable and useful, no need to just toss them...yet.
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Dude you don't even know. In basic I got issued a mix of BDU and UCP as UCP has just come out. When I got to my unit, I got issued BDU, DCU, and UCP gear. Shit was crazy, but over time got replaced with UCP.
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