Posted on Jun 2, 2015
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I did the Job of a Contracting NCO (51C) about the time the MOS was being given to the Army. After doing this job during a deployment I was ready to come home and take that job on full time on the Civilian side, but I don't meet the requirements that everyone is looking for (Accounting Degree / 10 years experience). I have a degree and experience from a deployment working with Civilians, Army, Air Force and Navy, but not 10 years of it....does the fast pace and stress of a deployment experience mean anything?? Just because I don't have an accounting degree does that mean that I can't do the job?? I was given high praise for the work I did being thrown into the job overseas, so does my experience from then carry no merit now in the Civilian job market?

Now I have another MOS (29E Electronic Warfare NCO) that I am trying to get into on the Civilian side and I am once again faced with similar road blocks..."Not enough experience", "Not the right background"...my question is then, how do you gain the experience employers are looking for without getting a chance to do the job? How do I get someone to look past the requirements that cause these jobs to sit open and unfilled so that employers can see the drive that I have to learn and succeed? Are there any surefire tips for me to make this happen?
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Best answer I have been able to come up with is this, and it's the same reason that very people make it from the production line to the corner office. There was a shift, years ago in the way companies do business. Once the big corporations started taking over they put bean counters in the top spots...which gor everyone who worls for that corporation is a horrible decision...for the corporation it is great though...the corporation doesn't care about the employees, they don't care about the quality of the product. They care, solely, about the bottom line, how much can they put in the pockets of investors and in thebpockets of the chiefs by way of bonuses. Beyond that...there is still an answer, a fairly simple one that I am very much opposed to. People without experience in a field (and people who got hired as and have always been managent do not have experience in that field...they have experience managing that field) do not have a an ounce of understanding of how to judge/evaluate/equate that experience in any way to levy it against the needs of the business. They cannot understand that years of service to organization is more valuable to that and other organozations than the willingness to throw vast ammoumts of money at a liberal arts degree thateans nothing to no one (except to me that you exhibited poor decision making in picling your field and wasted that money on a degree that allows you to do nothing) other than the fact that you can "stick with it" for a while. When we as a society shifted to valuing education over experience we kicked our collective selves right square in the junk. If you look at the 50's the owner of a company only made around 20% more than a topped out employee, because most of those were what we would call small businesses today and those men had experience...not education and they knew the value of it and how tonjidge it and how valuable their people were to their own livelihood. I know this is a a very long answer, but the question is deserving of it. We f'd ourselves over in a horrible way as a society. Just get used to it boys.
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Govt jobs hired me without the degree. I have 13+ years of experience in budget and accounting and that means didley squat in the civilian sector. They can care less if I ran a budget office and was in charge of multiple programs to balance. If I didn't have a BA, my resume was tossed.
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MSG Automated Logistical Specialist
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You need to make friends in the contracting world, ie: DLA, BAS, Northgroup Grumann, these are the companies that will higher ex military but you have to know people there
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I know a few, so I'm trying to get some help from them.
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LtCol Pilot HMH/M/L/A
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If you're a Marine 0311 you can get a job with the Mafia.
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SSG Ralph Innes
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In my experience, lanyard pullers that fire cannons after a football team scores a touchdown don't open very often!
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As it happens Tampa would be one of those available markets....hahaha
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There are a multitude of reasons why your MOS will not get you a job in the civilian market. Dependent on your MOS, most employers can not relate to the Military MOS structure. Does your MOS training compare to civilian training structure? In most cases no. On the technical side in my field the Army will call you a mechanic in just four months. In the civilian world most technical schools are two years with a high emphases on electronics. I have seen people come off regular Army boasting and thinking they are qualified and last one week before they are fired.

Do you hold any civilian certifications? I know you can get degrees but do you know many of the online courses and degrees aren't even recognized by the civilian world. Do your homework and ensure that you get into a legit school system.

Attitude, Don't think that just because you went to Iraq or Afghanistan, it qualifies you or puts you ahead of the civilian workforce. In reality Veterans preference doesn't amount to much other than maybe a interview unless your planning on government employment.

Reality is, the civilian workforce is changing and advancing so much faster than the Army. The longer you have served the harder it will be in most cases to find a job in the civilian market.
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SFC Larry Rosenthal
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My suggestion (and I have done it), apply anyway. Try to find out who the head of the department is. Most personnel people might nix it, but the person you will see things differently.
I am retired now, but send the resume out if 25% of the job description is there.
We military people can do almost anything,
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MSG David Chappell
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I don't understand this I left the army as an infantry soldier and had no issue finding the like type job!! (Sarcasm)
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1SG Jason Smith
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because there are very few civilian jobs that allow you to kill people and break stuff....we infantry are so misunderstood
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MSG David Chappell
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I know right????
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1SG Michael Blount
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Unless you're in law enforcement or are a firefighter, there isn't much call in the civilian world for one to use their Combat MOS. Some of the other ones, like cook/chef, Data Manager, plumber, carpenter - yah, I can see where those swing back and forth between civilian and military worlds. Speaking personally, I deliberately chose an MOS that was so different than what I did in the civilian world - just to keep in my interest in both. After nearly 20 good years, I can honestly say it worked.
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SFC Aaron Dudney
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Consider looking at companies that have been awarded the Freedom Award. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Defense_Employer_Support_Freedom_Award
Most if not all, are very Veteran Friendly Organizations. Also look at Utilities; they too are usually very supportive in the Veteran space and they have more experience (Nuclear) and appreciative of what Veterans can offer. This is something that I have learned over time, I was fortunate and was hired directly out of the Military (lucky). Regardless of experience I was willing to start from the ground up and did so. This has served me well.
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