Posted on Mar 25, 2016
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SFC Randy Purham
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SPC Bassett, that is a great question. It holds relevance because, depending on the rank it determines or gives a general idea to the employer what level of management experience, responsibility, maturity, and leading capacity one can offer or bring to their respective employment field. It also holds a little weight in determining the kind of stewardship they can bring to the job in terms of future recruiting, marketing, and leadership endeavors. Hope that answers your question.
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SFC Randy Purham
SFC Randy Purham
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MSG Robert Conrad although that is comical and perhaps even a stereotype to a large degree; that isn't true at all.
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MSG Robert Conrad
MSG Robert Conrad
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SFC Randy Purham - that stereotype does in fact exist. I am working alongside GS-14 and 15 government employees that have that perception, and are directly involved in hiring people. When I try to articulate the scope of responsibility an E5 in a unit has, and the decision making discretion some positions are afforded, they just roll their eyes or make comments like, well this is different....there are people at that level that really belive military duty consist of marching in formation, and being bossed around by guys wearing campaign hats, literally.
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SFC Randy Purham
SFC Randy Purham
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MSG Robert Conrad I know and deal with it on occasion as well. We have to continue to break those stereotypes and show them otherwise.
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SSgt Stephen Lindsey If the Dept of Labor would promote the importance of supervision to OPM and the rest of the federal government, that would be great. Despite having served as a SL, PSG, and 1SG, I wasn't considered to have had qualifying supervisory experience, according to OPM.
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MSG Jan Glock
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I once knew a PV2 (E-2) MP, who had to arrest an officer on Fort Bragg for DUI back in the 80's. He got the "Do you know who I am...?" speech, to which he replied "Unfortunately Sir, you have your rank confused with my authority..." My friend had been a civilian police officer for years before joining the Army!
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PO2 Bill Reardon
PO2 Bill Reardon
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The joker probably deserved it
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SSG John Eroh
SSG John Eroh
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MSG Jan Glock - I spent a year as the post commander's head gardener taking care of the ground around 3 general & 3 colonel quarters around a small lake. Part of our job was to chase off non-residents who wanted to fish. We wore civilian clothes and were told not to salute the officers while on duty there specifically to avoid the "my daddy is so and so" when we asked them to leave. The residents knew our ranks (SSG & SP5) and treated us very well. The wives made boxes of cookies for us to take home to our families at Christmas and even the Post Commander would come up to us to speak with us at the chapel, PX, etc. I did get those trying to use their daddy's rank but since they didn't know if I was military or civilian it didn't work. One of our benefits was my sidekick & I were allowed to fish anytime we wanted.
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MSG Jan Glock
MSG Jan Glock
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SSG John Eroh - LOL. Love it! Thank you for sharing your experience!
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
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CAPT Kevin B.
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Never thought of it but when I went reserve both my civilian grade and military rank pretty much went in parallel. Started out as a GS-12 on through GS-15 (Capped 14) equivalent and wound up retiring as an O-6. Looking at our military organization, the job, span of control, etc. were similar in the O-4/5 range. So there's an official crosswalk chart for officers/GS so I guess they can figure out who sits where for a dinner that won't happen. Interesting thing is I wound up mentoring a number of MILs in my civilian role because I wasn't their military chain, hence they felt more comfortable. I did have a problem with reservists who wanted to wear their military rank at work. Some did feel they were cheated out of civilian promotions. I just focused on doing a good job regardless of what I was wearing and it appears the rest took care of itself.
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Col Paul Bowen
Col Paul Bowen
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After retiring from the Air Force as an 06, I went to work for a large , family owned and operated company. They honestly did not have any idea what breadth of experience that a military retiree could bring to the table to benefit their organization. Because of that, my starting salary was pretty meager, compared to my military pay grade. However, after a few months of willingly taking on tough tasks a doing quick and thorough work, they began to realize the value of employees with a military background. Pay and responsibility continued to grow for the next 18 years that I spent with them. I retired for the second time, knowing that I had contributed to the growth and well being of the company. The company owners also realized and appreciated the contributions that I made and they now realize the potential value of hiring personnel with military backgrounds.
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SSG Scott Cross
SSG Scott Cross
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That's the correct attitude.Even with all the rank in the world,when you transfer to a new unit or ETS out,you are continually proving your worth.Its not what's on your collar,it's what's in your heart.
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TSgt Kenneth Hopkins
TSgt Kenneth Hopkins
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When stationed in England as Air Force law enforcement, wrote a parking
Citation. Before I could walk away a Captain approached me said it was his car.
Next thing a 2nd Lt from my unit came out spoke with the Captain.
Lt then addressed me, Sgt just tear up the ticket.
I very politely replied, Sir, if you want it torn up then you do it, I
Followed regulations and walked away. I
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CPT Kriss Hinebaugh
CPT Kriss Hinebaugh
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A GS-15/O-6 GS-14/O-5 GS-13/O-4 GS-12/O-3 GS-11/O-2 GS-9/O-1
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