Posted on Jan 16, 2020
Why was I taken off promotion list, and what can I do to fix this situation?
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So I graduated BLC back in March 2018 and was on the promotion list before I went when I had SSD1 done. I have been to SAWE and Field Sanitation since and assist Cadre at SAWE every course since. But the most recent promotion list has come out and my name is not on it. My Leadership is aware and are trying to figure out why. I have done some research and found that if any soldier is taken off they have to be informed and given documentation for the reason. The source I used is AR 600-8-19 section 7 paragraph 3-28 A (first sentence). Any guidance on what I can do as an E-4 to fix this situation. The National Guard is my life and I’m getting close to my ETS date and being shafted this many times is affecting my career and any chance I have on getting my promotion while also making me second guess if I’d like to extend. Also I have only ever been given a negative counseling statement and nothing more and that was only once. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated as I’m sure my Leadership has better things to do and I do not wish to consistently bug them about this situation. Thank you all ahead of time if you choose to respond and I do not get a chance to thank you in a timely manner.
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11B: Infantryman
Posted 6 y ago
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Been there.
Do some casual digging around and make some connections with your Battalion S1 clerk first chance you get. I had promotion related issues for over a year when I was in the Guard and no amount of “pushing it up the chain” did any good. I finally made a connection with the S1 shop where I learned that they were managing promotion lists with an Excel sheet. “Someone” without Excel knowledge tried to filter and sort to add “flags” and mistakenly flagged several otherwise eligible soldiers. Once that was pointed out, the spreadsheet keeper literally just pressed “delete” on one cell and all my “don’t know, we’ve asked Battalion” problems just disappeared.
Not saying that’s your situation, but it never hurts to establish your own cross-unit relationships when an unknown “they” are standing between you and what you’ve earned. Give “them” a face and a name.
It used to be what the E4 mafia was all about.
Do some casual digging around and make some connections with your Battalion S1 clerk first chance you get. I had promotion related issues for over a year when I was in the Guard and no amount of “pushing it up the chain” did any good. I finally made a connection with the S1 shop where I learned that they were managing promotion lists with an Excel sheet. “Someone” without Excel knowledge tried to filter and sort to add “flags” and mistakenly flagged several otherwise eligible soldiers. Once that was pointed out, the spreadsheet keeper literally just pressed “delete” on one cell and all my “don’t know, we’ve asked Battalion” problems just disappeared.
Not saying that’s your situation, but it never hurts to establish your own cross-unit relationships when an unknown “they” are standing between you and what you’ve earned. Give “them” a face and a name.
It used to be what the E4 mafia was all about.
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The National Guard is a different beast than that of AD. I know this very well since most of my career was back and forth riding orders in the NG and being a regular mday soldier.
You mentioned a negative counseling, when was that? It is very easy for a CDR to remove someone from the promotion list in the NG and sometimes it could just be based on personalities. I would definitely work your CoC and not skip around. The IG is useless as the NG IG is not the DOD or Army IG. If you go the IG route all the CDR has to say is that you have reached your promotion potential and site the negative counseling.
Before you give up on everything, don't forget you can ETS/reenlist into the reserve component. Yes you will have to reclass but you could finish a career.
I finished my career in the reserves and found that there is less good 'ol boy syndrome there than that in the NG.
You mentioned a negative counseling, when was that? It is very easy for a CDR to remove someone from the promotion list in the NG and sometimes it could just be based on personalities. I would definitely work your CoC and not skip around. The IG is useless as the NG IG is not the DOD or Army IG. If you go the IG route all the CDR has to say is that you have reached your promotion potential and site the negative counseling.
Before you give up on everything, don't forget you can ETS/reenlist into the reserve component. Yes you will have to reclass but you could finish a career.
I finished my career in the reserves and found that there is less good 'ol boy syndrome there than that in the NG.
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