Posted on May 20, 2016
Why would USMC recruiters avoid a candidate?
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When I got out of the Guard in 2015, I immediately contacted the USMC. I wanted to join a disciplined environment, because I needed it (and still need it).
My first recruiter expressed interest and said I met all of the qualifications to join. I shook hands with him, then departed. I followed up with emails and phone calls. He was ignoring me.
A friend of a 'senior' USMC recruiter said he would help. This senior recruiter said that it was weird that a recruiter would fall off the face of the earth like that, and that he would help. 3 months later, after realizing he wasn't responding to calls/emails either, I lost patience and joined the Reserves.
Of course, THE DAY AFTER I signed for the Reserves, he calls me back.
What gives? What could possibly distract recruiters months at a time from actually recruiting? I ask because I'm thinking about inquire again in 2018.
Apologies if I sound like a nagging hag, it's been a chip on my shoulder for a while.
My first recruiter expressed interest and said I met all of the qualifications to join. I shook hands with him, then departed. I followed up with emails and phone calls. He was ignoring me.
A friend of a 'senior' USMC recruiter said he would help. This senior recruiter said that it was weird that a recruiter would fall off the face of the earth like that, and that he would help. 3 months later, after realizing he wasn't responding to calls/emails either, I lost patience and joined the Reserves.
Of course, THE DAY AFTER I signed for the Reserves, he calls me back.
What gives? What could possibly distract recruiters months at a time from actually recruiting? I ask because I'm thinking about inquire again in 2018.
Apologies if I sound like a nagging hag, it's been a chip on my shoulder for a while.
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They didn't need the contract and they were stringing you until the next quota period.
Policies change in recruiting month to month. Maybe they weren't accepting prior service at the time. Maybe the recruiter was in school. Or maybe just lazy.
It's your career and nobody is gonna care more about it than you. If they don't answer your calls just goto the office.
It's your career and nobody is gonna care more about it than you. If they don't answer your calls just goto the office.
SFC Jim Dorsey
Regardless of policies, professional courtesy and common sense should kick in at some point. You just don’t stop communicating!
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Why do prior service enlistments not count, a body in the military is a body in the military.
Sgt Dale Briggs
SFC (Join to see) - as experienced body too if the record is clean, and he knows what he’s getting into. Chances of success imo are better than a thumb sucking 17 year old who’s never been away from home.
On behalf of the Corps, I would like to appologize to you, for apparently finding the one idiot on recruiting duty.
Not contacting you, not keeping those lines of communication open to you, was a rotten thing to do, and totally uncalled for.
I was a 're-tred' as well, entering into the Corps after the Army, and yes, there is more paperwork, and yes, it is all round, more work, but damn! We 're-treds' are halfway there... we already know the finer points of weaponry, we know all sorts of things that they don't have to waste time re-teaching us, and we usually end up at the top of the class, because most of us can focus on the newer things, instead of how to make a hospital corner, or just how to clean a rifle!
My unmet friend, if you still want this, and I should warn you, its hard going thru Boot older than 99% of your group, so you have to want it more than you've ever wanted anything else, for two reasons... the first being that they will see it as their duty to 'clean the Army crap out" and secondly, you are going to be pointed out in every situation as a Blessing or a Lesson... so be prepared!
Again, on behalf of MY Marine Corps, I offer profound apologies for the run-around you endured.
Not contacting you, not keeping those lines of communication open to you, was a rotten thing to do, and totally uncalled for.
I was a 're-tred' as well, entering into the Corps after the Army, and yes, there is more paperwork, and yes, it is all round, more work, but damn! We 're-treds' are halfway there... we already know the finer points of weaponry, we know all sorts of things that they don't have to waste time re-teaching us, and we usually end up at the top of the class, because most of us can focus on the newer things, instead of how to make a hospital corner, or just how to clean a rifle!
My unmet friend, if you still want this, and I should warn you, its hard going thru Boot older than 99% of your group, so you have to want it more than you've ever wanted anything else, for two reasons... the first being that they will see it as their duty to 'clean the Army crap out" and secondly, you are going to be pointed out in every situation as a Blessing or a Lesson... so be prepared!
Again, on behalf of MY Marine Corps, I offer profound apologies for the run-around you endured.
SSgt Christopher Brose
Cpl Glynis Sakowicz You got that warning right! I went through Marine Corps boot camp at the age of 35 1/2. I'm not ashamed to say it kicked my ass.
Cpl James Howard
Cpl. James Howard 1981 until November 1982. I had just graduated high school and completed my job training. I had nothing else going so I attempted to become an active duty solider but my recruiter kept doing the same thing, standing me up, not returning my calls and generally blowing me off. One day, I walked into his office and he said, "Why don't you try the Marine Recruiter, he'll get you out of here." He was right, they did. I was an active duty Marine for 7 years and I love my time as a Marine. My affiliation with the Marine Corps has been very influential on my life; however, I never forgot that negative experience with the Army and I never understood why they treated me like that. I think I understand better now.
Sgt Jose Insurriaga
We had a prior ArmyRabger back in 1969, great physically, and took it all in good stride, his probjem was Discipline issues, he had 1 tour in Nam got out and joined the Corps, toughest guy who I was proud to see change, his progression showed me How awesome it is to be a Marine!!! Keep at it, don't give up
As s former recruiter. The one you were working with was weak. Because your a prior service it may or may not involve more paperwork. Once you were qualified you should of been in. USAREC eats its own. My 1SG would of had my ass if I lost a PS applicant.
Sgt Greg Minier
Maybe the man was not fit enough in their eyes to pursue. I was a D.I. in San Diego . I wish some of them would have went in another branch.
LCpl Steve Smith
SFC Wayne Theilen - I agree with you about Marine Recruiters being some of the best. I know I have 3 working on getting me in (issues) and they worked hard just for a Rock like me lol.
Sam M
Mine just decided not to answer and deleted his facebook along with his supervisor who was grooming him because of me and he said it was not my fought. I tried calling him and messaging him to set up another date to meet and probably too much.
As a former Marine Corps recruiter I can tell you there's a couple reasons why the recruiter not call you back. The first is that because you already served in the Coast Guard, you were considered prior service and are much harder to place in the Marine Corps as they very rarely have spots available to except prior service. When they do it's typically prior Marines first then all others. This is mainly because you would still have to complete Marine Corps boot Camp even though you had already completed Coast Guard Boot Camp. Also, secondly the Marine Corps doesn't like to re-tread service members with no Marine Corps experience coming into the Fleet Marine Force for the first time possibly holding a higher rank than those experienced Marines in a junior leadership position.
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There are many reasons why the Corps may not have given OP the time of day. Some good, some bad, and that 's not just on the Corps side. OP, what was your reenlistment code?
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Disagree entirely with the Capt. We only had one month during the year that prior service could be enlisted (around Feb) when I was on the streets from 2009-2011 so if it was in April, that phone call would be the last one I made. It's easy to pass judgement when you havne't been a canvassing recruiter.
SPC Bobby Coble
I fail to see where he said "Coast Guard". The commonly used "Guard" term generally means National Guard. Just saying...
There are a couple reasons. Recruiters maybe "sandbagging". That means that the recruiter had made mission for the month and will hold on to a prospect until he needs it. If not that, the mission the recruiter has may have changed, or the number of prior-service recruits that the recruiter of the station can put in may have changed.
One thing that we don't want to think of but i very true, Once you are in the service, and you get out, it is NOT the priority of the military to bring you back in. Prior service that are still in the Individual Ready Reserve are still in the service. So, for prior service, during a drawdown, you were lucky to get back in anyplace. this is why, when I was the retention NCO, I made sure to remind the Soldiers I talked to that they needed to be double sure before they got out. you might not be able to get back in.
One thing that we don't want to think of but i very true, Once you are in the service, and you get out, it is NOT the priority of the military to bring you back in. Prior service that are still in the Individual Ready Reserve are still in the service. So, for prior service, during a drawdown, you were lucky to get back in anyplace. this is why, when I was the retention NCO, I made sure to remind the Soldiers I talked to that they needed to be double sure before they got out. you might not be able to get back in.
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i knew recruiting wasnt for me when the sob's gave the station i was going for to a ranger off active duty into reserves, said fuck no find another stool
SSG Robert Pratt
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the possibility that the recruiter's and station's mission box didn't contain a prior service and the station commander wanted to keep him for later, however the recruiter did fail to keep in touch to keep him interested.
Same thing happened to me. I was in the NJ national guard on 9/11/01, and I wanted to go back on active duty, but in the Marines. The recruiter said he could do it, explained I would be an E2 again and go to bootcamp, I already knew that and was ready. He literally disappeared. The office was closed and I had to drive to the other office in red bank. The senior recruiter was not interested in doing the paperwork, tried to pawn me off on the Air Force recruiter next door. Well, I wasn't trying to go down the food chain, so I went back in the regular army. A week before I shipped out, the NEW marine recruiter called me and wanted to get me in. I said too late. Guess it was t meant to be.
It seems harder for prior service to join, but they should be upfront about that and not leave you in the dark.
In my 12 years in USAREC, I don't remember the Marines ever taking Prior Service. We put in former Marines on occasion because they couldn't get back in the Corps and only the Army was taking prior service at the time. I am surprised they didn't tell you that up front.
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They informed me that taking it didn't matter if I were prior service, there weren't different standards and that it was the equivalent of taking in a civilian. Well, I know that's not the case now. Thanks for the reply
Cpl Rc Layne
SFC J Fullerton - 83-87. When I was working on the range at Parris Island we prior service in almost every series that came. That was 87-90. Things have changed, I guess.
SPC Sayi, I went through the a similar process a few years back. I got out of the Marine Corps in 2002. When I decided I was going to return to service I took me 10 months and 9 different recruiters before I made it back on active duty. The problem is coming in prior service is an uphill battle, and they only accept them a certain time periods. My advice is if you are looking to go on Active Duty go to an Army Recruiter. In the long run I'm glad I didn't go back to the Marine Corps. Don't get me wrong once a Marine always a Marine, but from an opportunity for advancement standpoint the Army has a much larger range of possibilities.
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I agree with you, SFC (Join to see), but I'd be joining the reserves. It's for personal development rather than active duty pay/benefits. I would certainly have an easier time going AD in the Army, but wouldn't really learn anything.
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Well don't let me be the one to stop you from following your dreams. if being a Marine is your desire then I say don't quit. When you get the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor placed in your hand and they call you a Marine for the 1st time. It will all be worth it.
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you are so correct in this aspect the marines don't have the advancement like the army or other military branch has...........
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