Posted on Aug 1, 2018
Will an Article 15 stop me from becoming a warrant officer?
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In 2010 I received an Article 15 and I wanted to know will that stop me from becoming a warrant officer? What if the Article 15 is not in my IPERMS can someone still see I received an Article 15? Also who can see restricted files in my (our) IPERMS?
My MOS is 92Y Unit supply Specialist and I want to become a 920A Property Accounting Technician!
If you can, can you respond to all the questions please.
Thank you to anyone who respond.
My MOS is 92Y Unit supply Specialist and I want to become a 920A Property Accounting Technician!
If you can, can you respond to all the questions please.
Thank you to anyone who respond.
Warrant Officers
92Y: Unit Supply Specialist
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To start receiving an Article 15 mean that you committed some offense under the UCMJ. Your CO ensured that an alleged offense did in fact violate the UCMJ, an Army Regulations, an Army Policy, a lawful order, any local laws or some other rule that you had a duty to obey. So yes I'd say a review board would look at this in a negative manner. A lot as others have stated is if this is private or public file. Could you get a letter of recommendation from the CO who gave the Article 15 in case its brought up ?
https://www.de.ng.mil/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ocs-recommendation.pdf
https://www.de.ng.mil/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ocs-recommendation.pdf
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SPC David S.
SGT Eric Davis - Not sure anyone can give you a definitive answer other than the review board. Just suggesting a letter of recommendation might help. This one is way below my pay grade. Best of luck.
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What was your rank when you got that Article 15? If you were E4 or below, the record of that offense is only kept for two years, or until you PCS. The Army generally does not hold an Article 15 against you as long as you had not promoted to E-5 or above. If you received it as an E-5, whether it is in your public or restricted file is at the discretion of the commander that issued the Article 15. If I had gotten it as an E5, I would assume that the selection board has access to your restricted file and come clean about it. If it was while you were E4 or below , I would be honest if they ask, but wouldn't volunteer that information.
From someone that has had to give more than one Article 15, if you were an NCO and I put it in your restricted file, it meant that I thought you had f**ked up and needed a lesson, but I thought that you were worth the effort to keep around.
From someone that has had to give more than one Article 15, if you were an NCO and I put it in your restricted file, it meant that I thought you had f**ked up and needed a lesson, but I thought that you were worth the effort to keep around.
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SGT Eric Davis
But i look All in my records and USAREC did too and couldn’t find it I was just wondering
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SGT Eric Davis - It would help to know what rank you were when you got the Article 15 and the level. If it was before you promoted to E-5, the record should have been kept local for 2 years and then destroyed. If you were E-5, it's on your record somewhere, or at least should be.
So to answer all three questions, no, an old Article 15 should not keep you out of WOCS. If you were E-4 or below, it shouldn't exist, but may be reflected in evaluations of the period. I answered who can see the Restricted Fiche above.
I would apply with a morality waiver and not worry about it. They will know you were honest and if it was in your local file, doesn't exist anymore.
So to answer all three questions, no, an old Article 15 should not keep you out of WOCS. If you were E-4 or below, it shouldn't exist, but may be reflected in evaluations of the period. I answered who can see the Restricted Fiche above.
I would apply with a morality waiver and not worry about it. They will know you were honest and if it was in your local file, doesn't exist anymore.
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SGT Eric Davis
Was an E5 and I checked my restricted file and I didn’t see it in my IPERMSCPT Lawrence Cable
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SGT Eric Davis - By regulations it should be there, as a Commander, my only option was to put it on either your performance fiche or in the restricted file. My advice is still the same, file for a waiver and if it doesn't show up, they will at least know you aren't trying to hide stuff. Article 15's are not supposed to be career enders for a single screw up in the Army and I know people with Commissions that had Article 15's as enlisted. Hell, I came damn close a couple of times myself. If that was the only offense and you have good evals since, it shouldn't hurt your chances.
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Yes, It can stop you if they ask or see it, because it will reflect on your character and standards.
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What kind of Art. 15 was it? What was it for? Was it placed in your restricted OMPF or unrestricted?
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SGT Eric Davis
I don’t see it in my IPERMS so will it stop me? Also who can see files in restricted folder? It was a field grade
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Eric Davis - Anyone in a position that may need to look at your records can see your unrestricted. No one can see the restricted side. You should be able to look at the article 15 paperwork and know where it was filed. If it isn't restricted, depending on what it was for it may stop you. At a minimum it will make you a less desirable candidate in comparison to others.
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What rank were you when you received the UCMJ action? Also what level of UCMJ was it. The safe answer is apply for a morality waiver for the UCMJ. The board can not see your restricted file however they now do reviews for every promotion now and it is my understanding that the restricted file is looked at. Not sure if they go into your enlisted record though. Have you looked in your restricted file in IPERMs and looked to see if it is there or if you can see the UCMJ action? If you can't see it there is a chance no one else will either
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SGT Eric Davis
My ARTICLE 15 is not there but when I tried to get my DD214 updated that was placed in my restricted file and it states an ARTICLE 15. So will that stop me since that’s in my restricted file? Also I was a NCO when I got it.
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CW4 (Join to see)
If you were an NCO then I would request a morality waiver through HQDA. That way you know it will not come back to bite you. If the board finds out you had one and didn't disclose it they may throw your packet out for integrity and that opens a whole new can of worms. What was it for if you are willing to say?
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Depends on what your rank was at the time, and what you received it for.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
SGT Eric Davis - It would probably be those that handle the school and your superiors that would look at it, (CO, XO).
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Is there anything in your records that states you had an article 15? Also, were you an NCO when you received it?
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