Posted on Feb 27, 2021
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
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Since military benefits are lost on day 61 of a criminal conviction, will we finally see the retired and/or separated insurrectionist veterans lose their retirements, GI/9-11 bills, and VA benefits and stop them leeching off a government they wanted to overturn in the first place?

In addition, will we see their respective services follow precedent and subject those retirees to Court Martials, as they are still bound by UCMJ after retirement?
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SGT Don Schaffer
It is a shame that politics has consumed so much of American life.
Before self-important politicans took so much of our lives we used to have so much richer lives.
I am aware that there were trespassers on the Capitol grounds, but deploying more troops then we have in the Middle East and calling it a riot were strictly political acts.
I don't pretend to have a crystal ball, but we are going in a bad direction.
Our Founding Fathers have provided the citizen/sovereigns of this country will the opportunity of freedom, but it is up to each generation to keep it. We have all sworn to uphold the Constitution for this reason.
We need to demand transparency in government and not allow the politicians to seize power from "We the people" from behind high fences and armed guards.
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
3 y
hear hear.
Raises glass.
SGT Don Schaffer
SGT Don Schaffer
3 y
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
Yes, I do cheer for the American people, way of life, country, and those Patriots who first gave their lives to buy us the chance to be free.
I am not embarrassed to be a proud American.
I do not feel the need to use intentionality misused terms just to further the views of those who want to give away what we brought and paid for with blood- "humanity's last best hope."
CPL Kristopher Gromacki
Real patriots know this wasn’t an insurrection. This is people tired of watching old, disgusting, gutless politicians who are paid off by China, ruin the country that we would have died for. We are tired of the socialist indoctrination program being taught at schools and subliminally on NBC, CNN, and ABC. Hate isn’t strong enough to describe my feelings towards the fact that the election was stolen right in front of our faces and these weak republicans are too worried about being outed on their own shady business deals to say anything to try and save this country from the army of woke, alphabet people, and illegal aliens. These “leeches” do t lose anything that they earned, don’t worry. Venezuela is looking for new recruits if you would like to go back and report to Maduro on the progress you are making
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
3 y
Looks like the indoctrination from FOX, OAN and the other guys is worked on you, not?
CPO Scott Langhoff
LMAO! You’d better read “ Irresistible Revolution: Marxism's Goal of Conquest & the Unmaking of the American Military” by Matthew Lohmeier. You might learn something. Quit drinking the liberal Kool-Aid and learn the facts.

And don’t forget to report me to your “Kommissar”.
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
3 y
oh no, another "socialism false equivalency".
Can't you guys do better than this?
And the kool-aid, always the kool-aid.
I'm more of a beer kind of guy.
SGT William Jackson
SGT William Jackson
3 y
And what would you call it Sarge, it sure as hell is not democracy, and it sure is not the way this republic should be ran!
SPC Luther Wooten
Why wish the worst for fellow veterans. Do you want to see them crushed? It was a protest that became a violent protest not an insurrection as most were unarmed. How do you try to overthrow a government without the force of arms? Just because a handful of idiots in Congress declares it so don't make it true. The worst they can realistically be charged with is trespassing. The veterans who were in D.C. on the 6th have a right to protest and let their voices be heard. They don't have a right to be violent anymore than BLM has the right to riot and burn down cities. You can hate the federal beauracracy while still loving this country and the constitution. Our present government has moved so far from the constitutional law of the land you can't even recognize our country as a constitutional republic.
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
3 y
I disagree with your views, I agree with some, and I thank you for answering candidly.
I do dislike a LOT of what is going in the country, but at some point a line has to be drawn.
And attacking the seat of Government has to be it, don't you think?
CW2 UH-60 Pilot
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On April 19th, 1775, 700 British regulars detached from the garrison of Boston under Lt. Col. Francis Smith marched to Lexington and Concord on a mission to confiscate arms from the insurrectionist English colonists. The attempt sparked a revolution.

Let that sink in Democrats!
MSgt Thomas O'Rourke
I have not seen any charges other than trespassing filed yet. What about the USAF Vet who was shot through a closed door? Officer Sicknick (one of my fellow NJ ANG members) tragically died from a stroke unrelated to the attack (per the DC coroner). So what are we going to court-martial people for again?
AB Edward Mondini
Did any of these “insurrectionists” fire any weapons?

Did shy of these “insurrectionists” take any government workers or Congressmen hostage?

It’s been reported one protestor was shot & killed by an as-yet-to-be-named police officer. One officer died of natural causes and all other deaths were among the Trump supporters of natural causes.

The Jan 6 protesters were exercising their First Amendment rights to redress their grievances. You ought to know what I’m referring to: you yourself too an oath to support and defend the Constitution.

And now, today, you’re dragging our Constitution, that you took an oath to protect, right thru the mud.

Since you’re on the subject of “insurrection”, what are you going to do to seek punishment for those real rioters who trashed downtown Portland, OR……Seattle, WA……..Minneapolis, MN……..New York City………Chicago? You deceitfully neglected to say one peep about those rioters. By any definition, destroying property, killing innocent civilians, looting stores sounds more like an insurrection.

The January 6 MAGA supporters in Washington DC did not riot, destroy property, kill civilians or loot stores.

So who did the real rioting on Jan 6 in Washington DC? Members of the Antifa anarchist group admitted they vandalized the Capitol building and did all the rioting.

Remember John Sullivan? His brother James does. He turned his rioting brother John over to the FBI. But you’re too interested pointing fingers at peaceful Trump supporters to do your research.

On top of that, the DC Police did nothing to stop them. They even had riot police there who just stood there and did nothing.

For you to not mention the real rioters is disingenuous and deceitful.

And to add shame on top of deceit, you’re posting this disgusting blame on peaceful MAGA protesters without even a single shred of evidence.
SMSgt Bob Wilson
SMSgt Bob Wilson
3 y
A1C Tiger H - Tiger, you are getting upset over something you have no control over. State your opinion and stop listening to News Commentator's opinion being used as facts. Looters and Protester who destroy property are not "FALSE EQUIVALENCY" they are "TRUE EQUIVALENCY" -- the outcome is the same based on the same reason [the destruction of property]. Yes, the cause may be different; however, the approach was not justified [to destroy property].
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
3 y
Excuses, always excuses and false equivalencies.

Can't you guys come up with something else, more logical and without the "what if-ism" that you guys cant get away from?
SSG Robert Perrotto
SSG Robert Perrotto
3 y
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA - when it is all related - then it is not a false equivalency. We have been in an insurrection (going by your definition of one) for the past 4 years. Maxine Waters told the world to "get up to them" (speaking of administration and political opponents), get in their faces, make them uncomfortable. How is this any different then what she told her constituents to do? I fully support that all of our politicians should have a modicum of fear of forcible removal by the people. We the People run the country, not the politicians. they needed a reminder that they do not rule us, we rule them.

And when you have prominent lawmakers, media personalities, and grifters of division making apologies, or downplaying the true violence of the riots in portland, chicago, kenosha etc etc by stated support for, "mostly peaceful" to downplay, or even Chris Coumo stating on national television "where in the constitution does it say protests must be peaceful" you show just how ignorant and biased you truly are by calling the Jan 6th rioters "insurrectionists"

The idiocy being played out in our country are not isolated incidents - to be taken individually - they are all related and paint a very grim future for our republic. we are very divided, and the division will continue to be fueled by our politicians, media, and grifters until we start shooting each other. Pay attention High Speed - firearm sales have skyrocketed among all demographics - the masses are arming themselves.
LCpl Michael Cappello
WTF makes you think those people wanted to or were trying to "overturn" the government ? There were MANY "irregularities" in the voting process. There was clear evidence of malfeasance. They believed that the election was a sham. That there was massive fraud. We took an oath to "Protect and Defend" "Against ALL enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC . Do you remember taking that oath ? Wouldn't preventing the Socialists / Democrats from cheating / stealing the election fall under that heading ? Shouldn't you be rooting for those who would sacrifice everything to stand up for what they believe in ? Isn't it odd that the NFL will review and replay and make every effort to ensure a fair and accurate call but, the politicians will not ? Particularly with all the problems and blatantly suspect happenings as went on with this (election ???)
LCpl Michael Cappello
LCpl Michael Cappello
3 y
Why must you continue to cast me as a Trump follower ? Is your rhetoric so limited ? Or is that all you are capable of spouting ? LET ME SAY IT AGAIN !!! THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP !!! It is about a HIGHLY SUSPECT election. One that has never been run this way. Due to COVID many things were modified. This resulted in voting irregularities. Both sides were effected by voting irregularities. Here are the irregularities just in the state of Georgia:
66,247 Underage persons were allowed to register illegally and then voted
8,718 persons apparently deceased prior to voting.
Absentee ballots were sent to 2,560 Felons
2,423 Unregistered persons
4,926 Persons registered in another state after moving from Georgia
1,043 Persons registered using a P.O Box, not a legal residence
15,700 Persons who had filed a national change of address with the USPS as
having relocated to another state prior to Election Day, and
40,279 Persons who moved without re-registering/voting in their new county.
That’s a total of 141,896 possibly illegal votes in a state that Biden won by 12,670. Every one of those claims should be thoroughly investigated. Some of them may well be wrong, and it may well take weeks to complete the investigations, but they should be pursued, as should the claims of irregularities in the other five states.

If you are okay with that many voting irregularities then you are a COMMUNIST and have zero concept of what a vote is all about. You probably believe that we live in a Democracy too.
LCpl Michael Cappello
LCpl Michael Cappello
3 y
It should have been an issue no matter who won or lost. Maybe it is just me. I love my country but do not trust my government.
LCpl Michael Cappello
LCpl Michael Cappello
3 y
GySgt Duane Da - Not on my watch !!!
SGT William Jackson
SGT William Jackson
3 y
Tiger do you really think that this was a fair election, too many maybes and we will probably never know the full scope of how many votes were false. And as for this country being racist, no worse than the rest of the world, it is a sad human fault that we see others as not our equals, but I do not think it will ever change.
SGM Sergeant Major
This is obviously click bait, for a guy looking to beef up his profile. The statement is wrong on so many point. 1. Benefits don't stop on day 61 of a "criminal conviction".
PO2 David Davidson
Please tell us what “insurrectionists” are you referring to?
SSgt Where Ever They Tell Me To Work
Wow. You can't be serious. An LTC at that. Good thing you obviously retired 50 years ago. You shouldn't be commanding a McDonald's let alone a military unit.
SGT William Jackson
SGT William Jackson
3 y
Wait, have you got your antifa mask on? You a fan of Marx and Lenin, just another libtard that will sell this country down the river, have you seen what has happened to our country in just these few months, and you think it is good? Well thank you for your service but are you sure you believe in the oath you took, looks to me like no!
SSgt Where Ever They Tell Me To Work
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SGT William Jackson Hold on a minute. You want to talk about the oath? The one that you swore to protect against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. The same constitution that an insurrections mob tried to disrupt because their fear leader fed them lies for years, including the Big Lie. Yeah, I proudly serve to protect that constitution. Oh, and by the way, you've also bought in to the nonsensical idea that everyone who doesn't match lock strep with Trump's GOP is a communist, socialist, radical. There is such a thing as nuance. Just because a large portion of the GOP has gone full extremist does not mean that everyone else has gone the full opposite. Seriously, turn off Newsmax and OAN. It's rotting your brain.

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