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Posted on Aug 4, 2020
Larry Pruitt
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Cpl Jeff N.
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The safe thing to do is never answer the question. Period. It is no ones business if you own weapons legally. Perhaps one of the reasons guns are used in suicide is they are an available means to use. Do we really think that those determined to kill themselves will not find a way?

I have seen the recent ads from the Department of Veterans Affairs on "safe weapons" and they are complete BS. Keeping a weapon unloaded and locked away and the ammo stored in a different location than the weapon makes paper weights out of them.

This is merely another avenue in the "safety" screed hurled out by society today. I prefer liberty over safety.
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LT William Kunkle
LT William Kunkle
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by the time you realize there is an intruder, open a safe with the gun, go to another room to get ammo locked up, load the weapon...he's already stolen your wide screen TV, raped your spouse and kidnapped your kid. Leftie's gun safety is ridiculous
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SFC Christopher Dunlap
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MSgt Allen Chandler - Your comments hurt my brain trying to decipher what you were saying. How someone makes it to the rank of Master Sergeant when they speak/type on about a 6th grade level is astounding. I would hate to read the NCOER’s you had to write for your subordinates.
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MSgt Allen Chandler
MSgt Allen Chandler
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SFC Christopher Dunlap - I'm sorry for the damage to your brain. Are use a text to type Computer program To put information in Because his disabilities I developed Well I was earning my rank. If my typing in grammar on my only problem is That I think I'm doing pretty good. If you have something that you disagree That I'd be glad to hear it.
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SGT Lorenzo Nieto
SGT Lorenzo Nieto
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If I am going to kill my self I don’t need a gun I can use a knife a rope a car jump off a bridge or a building, I am not going to give up my weapons just because I have PTSD many people who kill them self are hell bent on doing it no matter who they talk to, I have had experienced being turned away from the va when I needed help it’s hard to reach out because you’re afraid to ask for help because of how you will be labeled sometimes I think be for you come home from combat or being discharged it should be mandatory you take a glass on the warning signs for PTSD and suicid it’s not a cure all but it’s a start when I got discharged back in 1970 you were given your walking papers and that was it.
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SGT Steve McFarland
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My answer to "Do you have a gun?" is "None of your business."
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MAJ Byron Oyler
MAJ Byron Oyler
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I did until the boating accident...so tell me more about what happened that day on the boat? Was everyone ok?
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My response: "Absolutely not! I see too many people every day that need killin to own one." ;)
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SGT Steve McFarland
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CPT (Join to see) Bwahaha!!! Good one!
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SGT Frank Barnes
SGT Frank Barnes
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It's sad that those who need help the most are placed in a position where they have to lie to get and AND keep their rights. Stay strong brothers and sisters.
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CMSgt James Nolan
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The answer is “quite possibly “. The narrative today is that guns are bad. Veterans are dangerous. Liberal activists are seeking more and more infringement of the second amendment every day.
How many firearms someone has, how they store them etc is nobody’s business but the owner.
If someone is flagged in the system as “a person prohibited “ there is a real chance that they may then have additional related problems because of that “flag”.
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Sgt James S.
Sgt James S.
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Angela Bates - "Everytown" is not a credible organization, nor is it about "safety," despite its name. You'd do yourself a favor by not citing from them on anything to do with guns unless it's to illustrate how clueless or dishonest they are.
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Angela Bates
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Sgt James S. - Well, I added several other sources that give you multiple saying the same thing, so don't let that stop you from reading the facts. I have been working in mental health and healthcare for 10 years and I'm not about to get into the issues with your counterargument other than saying that attacking an issue from all angles rather than simply "prevention" is necessary. Does sex education and availability of birth control methods prevent teen pregnancy? Well, it makes a huge difference, yes. But it doesn't stop it and having options for when it does happen is important, whether that be social services or adoption options.
Unfortunately, in our individualistic country, people only care about and will not fund things that do not affect them personally. If someone feels they don't have mental health issues, they don't want to pay taxes to ensure others are getting the mental health care they need. I don't think I have to explain how mental illness affects a person's ability to work/get insurance/pay for care. Insurance companies are increasingly refusing to pay for counseling. My talk therapy is $85 per appointment and my EMDR for my PTSD is $145 per appointment. My talk therapy is covered but my EMDR is not. It's an effective therapy that assists many Veterans with PTS and insurance doesn't want to cover it because of politics. It's nice to have nonprofits that have mental health outreach and try to change the culture around suicide and its prevention, but if people cannot get help when most are already reluctant to, we need to look at all the ways we could possibly prevent more suicides. I pay $620 per month for my mental health therapy and another $15 for my Zoloft. All of that just to keep functioning. If tagging guns with reminders to contact help and having mental health evaluations before allowing gun purchases or taking them temporarily from those showing signs of suicidal thoughts can help prevent the 68-75% of Veteran suicide by firearm, I cannot fathom why we wouldn't try.
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Sgt James S.
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Angela Bates - "If tagging guns with reminders to contact help and having mental health evaluations before allowing gun purchases or taking them temporarily from those showing signs of suicidal thoughts can help prevent the 68-75% of Veteran suicide by firearm, I cannot fathom why we wouldn't try."

You want to stick a tag on guns to contact help? I don't even know where you think that would go or how it would be on there.
Requiring mental health evals before purchases...why wouldn't we try that? Because it would violate the person's rights. It's a non-starter.
Taking them "temporarily" from those showing signs of suicidal thoughts...this one *might* be OK *if* it's pursuant to due process AND no permanent harm is done. You're assuming that the seizure will actually be a temporary thing and that the gun(s) will be returned at all (let alone returned in the same condition or properly cared for while in custody of whoever takes them). This has not been the case for many a seizure.
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CMSgt James Nolan
CMSgt James Nolan
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Sgt James S. I’ve been watching this for a bit.
We aren’t going to change that stance. I have let it go.
Here is what I know to be a truth:
We can outlaw guns-and folks will stab each other.
We can legislate away gun rights to prevent suicide, and people will drive off bridges.
The one thing we all agree on-too many (way too many) of us take our own lives. In my opinion stricter gun control just isn’t the answer.
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