Posted on Jul 23, 2016
With the broad spectrum of Republican candidates, how did we end up with Trump and Clinton?
Suspended Profile
12.9K
96
109
There were over a dozen Republican candidates: Dr. Carson, Trump, Christie, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Carlie Fiorina, Gingrich and more. The Democratic Party may have had their process rigged but there was only two choices...
With the broad spectrum of Republican candidates, how in the wide, wide world of sports did we end up with Trump?
With the broad spectrum of Republican candidates, how in the wide, wide world of sports did we end up with Trump?
Posted in these groups: 
Politics
Election 2016
Republicans
Democrats
Office of the President (POTUS)
Politics Election 2016 Republicans Democrats Office of the President (POTUS)
Posted >1 y ago
Responses: 40
This one is easy.
The Establishment GOP misunderstood the anger directed towards them and their lack of movement on any issue of substance. That anger resulted in Trump winning. It was a rebuke of the GOP.
Hillary won because the DNC willed it. That much has been proven through the wiki leaks.
So basically, Trump won because the establishment did not care about its constituents' concerns.
Hillary won because the establishment did not care about its constituents, period.
The Establishment GOP misunderstood the anger directed towards them and their lack of movement on any issue of substance. That anger resulted in Trump winning. It was a rebuke of the GOP.
Hillary won because the DNC willed it. That much has been proven through the wiki leaks.
So basically, Trump won because the establishment did not care about its constituents' concerns.
Hillary won because the establishment did not care about its constituents, period.
He is the lesser of 3 evil that we have to choose from it is either a woman that let Benghazi and top secret emails go under the rug or a socialist that would make America like North Korea. The others just didn't plan their strategy the right way.
Suspended Profile
will you elaborate on becoming North Korea? I have not heard that analogy before.
SGT Larry Michael Bleckler II
North Korea is part socialist and part communists the government controls who gets food which consists of mostly immediate military family not the people. Health care there isn't any electricity is supplied only to military bases the regime is passed on to one family for thousands of generations. No elections of government officials they are appointed by the leader of the country not by the people. They are starving therefore becoming a socialist country we would end up like North Korea, China and regulations on who can give birth to children and similar to government genicide as Nazi Germany was when Hitler and Stalin ruled. The people would lose everything our forefathers had fought for in the ratification of the constitution, bill of rights and so forth. America the free and home of the brave would become, America home of the slaves and land of the lost dreams.
Good Question Maj Blake and here's my opinion. I really think that the everyday American citizen is just fed up with all these career politicians, all the unfulfilled promises they make, all the back stabbing and Trump represented the 1st person to come along that wasn't a career politician Another thing I see happening, When Trump gets into the WH and let's say he does well I think you'll see a lot more of these non career politicians running for the next POTUS. Trump in my opinion represents something different, he's got on TV and said what the people wanted to hear, he's hit hard on the terrorist issue, the immigrant issue and Obamacare and a few other issues and I think, and this is only my opinion Trump himself thinks he can change somethings and get this country pointed in the right direction. Like I said it's only my opinion.
Suspended Profile
SFC Richard Giles opinions matter, even more if they're thought through. I can't say that I'd be disappointed if more non-politicians got into politics. I believe our founding fathers didn't want a political class that ruled over us. Otherwise, GW would have been King George!
SFC Richard Giles
MAJ Charles Blake - You are exactly right. I wish somebody would tell those people in Washington that. It's even in the Constitution if I remember correctly.
Why Trump out of the field of Republicans? Because when a culture values spectacle over substance they get what they deserve.
There are other options.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/trump-vp-gary-johnson-bill-weld-libertarian-214069
There are other options.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/trump-vp-gary-johnson-bill-weld-libertarian-214069
The GOP Is a Dying Party. That’s Why I’m Running Against Trump.
My Libertarian Party running mate, Bill Weld, is also a vastly better choice than Mike Pence.
The base has been prodded into madness intentionality they though they could control the creature that they created and failed, the re result is Trump as a nominee and very probably President Clinton
There is a strong contingent of the Republican party that are not conservative. They are authoritarian. This means essentially that they fear the outsider and fear change to the social order, and want a strong leader to take the reigns and punish wrong doers. Trump fits the bill for them. We'll see if they can get traditional conservatives to agree with them by November.
Suspended Profile
SSG (Join to see) now that's a perspective I have not heard before. I've heard of the Trumpers described as "tired of getting pushed around", "losing their positions, arguments..." but never considered them authoritarian.
I agree that they are fed up with too much "change" to the social order, personally I'm think to say they fear change is too simple and simplifies their issues.
I agree completely that they are not the traditional conservatives, but then again neither is the group that wanted Jeb or Rubio or Christie. It's an interesting time to watch the republican party, that's for sure.
I agree that they are fed up with too much "change" to the social order, personally I'm think to say they fear change is too simple and simplifies their issues.
I agree completely that they are not the traditional conservatives, but then again neither is the group that wanted Jeb or Rubio or Christie. It's an interesting time to watch the republican party, that's for sure.
Suspended Profile
SSgt Jim Gilmore well, in a word - yes. You win the precision in language contest for the day.
Consider if the choices had been Carley, Rubio Cruz and Trump. Only 4. How would that have played out?
Suspended Profile
Col Rebecca Lorraine ma'am, that sounds like a new RP question starter kit. I'd like to hear people's thoughts on each. I would really like to have known more about Rick Santorum.
I'll tell you that Trump was not my pick in the primaries. In fact here in Ohio we voted in Kasich. Now i can't speak for all Ohioans but those I know who were open and discussing it voted for Kasich knowing that he couldn't win outside of Ohio. But we didn't want Trump to walk away with the election. By denying him Ohio he had to work for it. He worked pretty hard and got it. I'll support him thinking he'll appoint better judges, and he'l be easier to vote out in 4 years than Hillary would be. Should we need to that is....
Suspended Profile
SFC Everett Oliver , thanks for your perspective. I'm not from OH but I drove through there on my way to Ft. Drum once... I agree that from my perspective he didn't hold much national attraction...
Read This Next
Continue with Facebook 
Continue with Google
Despite this, I want to see the GOP establishment and the media flip. The delight I take in watching them melt down is just too much. Democrats as well. Neither of the three understand why he is doing so well. This is because they don't understand the voters right now, and how angry both sides are with the establishment.
Regardless of what happens, Trump or Hillary will be a one term president. That much I am certain of. Trump will face a republican primary contender, which is virtually unheard of for an incumbent. Hillary will lose to whatever rising star the GOP can usher in. All this will be a distant memory in 2021. If the country can endure.
These are interesting political times; no one had ever won re-election with the economy and other factors going against them until PBO did it. Perhaps we'll get to see an incumbent president get primaried out of a job next.
Trump is no shiny nickle but is better IMO and IMJ than someone who doesn't really care about the people or the USA