Posted on Sep 13, 2016
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If a fresh 2LT/ENS ordered an E9 to attention because of a disagreement, would the E9 have to comply? What would possibly happen?
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I'm sure that once the CSM complied The young pompous LT. watched as his world melt around him while standing at attention in the Brigade Commanders Office. I truly believe that there should be a class for these young officers in OCS or there college ROTC program that teach these kids and yes I mean kids to respect CSM's not only for there knowledge but also for the simple reason that some CSM's have been in so long they remember when Jesus was a private. When these kids get there commission they think they are gods and they can treat soldiers like shit. What they don't realize is it's the soldiers that can make or break there career. In short do not mess with a CSM unless you have a death wish.
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SGT Bill Harmon
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Definitely, but the aftermath would be awesome to watch lol
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MAJ Rick Breneman
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Indeed!
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CDR Robert O'Byrne
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I retired as a Navy O5. Some of the best leadership lessons I learned were as an O1-O3 from a CPO and/or USMC Gunny or above. These lessons were always delivered with "intense" respect that always impressed me as them being deeply interested in me being a better leader. I thought of them as my "Disney" moments. You know ... when you go to Disney you want to see Mickey. When in the military you haven't had the full experience until the Chief/Gunney has yelled in your presence ... and you are the only other person in the room.
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MCPO John Kerr
MCPO John Kerr
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And the Chief or Gunney should make damn sure that there are only two people present when that occurs! :)
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CDR Robert O'Byrne
CDR Robert O'Byrne
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Of course they did ... and to be clear, it was more an intense verbal expression than yelling though to an outsider it might be perceived as yelling or something like it. I always left the moment better off, not feelings hurt.
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CAPT Senior Navy Reserve Policy Advisor
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Is this a serious question? Good grief.
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SCPO Jeff Strickland
SCPO Jeff Strickland
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Couldn't agree with you more...
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MAJ Infantry Officer
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People like to come on the site and ask silly what if's. Much as my four years old nephew does.
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PO1 Rexford Dundon
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I know this is just a movie scene.. but just imagine something like this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q-hLyUZS9E
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Yes the E-9 should comply with the order to show respect for the rank.....then immedately knife hand the LT to death behind closed doors lol
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AN Michael Munn
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Yes he would. He would also educate the O1
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Sgt Chris Banks
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Out of respect for the officer, he would comply, but would explain to the young officer about TIME IN GRADE RESPECT
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Maj Clinical Nurse
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My grandfather was a retired E7, I am now an O-4. I was told before I left for training not to be a 'like the lts he knew'. I rely on my senior NCOs, they are the reason I have made it this far.
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Edited 9 y ago
I can't think of a single occasion where I have been treated anything but fairly and professionally by NCOs or any time ever where I've even considered this "ordering to attention" as an option. If you find yourself having an unprofessional conversation with an NCO you are probably already six months behind in a game you didn't know you were losing.
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